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Post time 2006-6-14 15:30:32 |Display all floors

China Will Be More Receptive When

China will be more receptive to lieing Brits when they own up to their debts to China (a trillion dollars, $16,000 apiece, men, women and children for all Brits) and start paying up.  Till then, the real Chinese just treats the words of the gweilo as doggie fart.

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Post time 2006-6-14 16:29:48 |Display all floors
Originally posted by tongluren at 2006-6-14 17:30
China will be more receptive to lieing Brits when they own up to their debts to China (a trillion dollars, $16,000 apiece, men, women and children for all Brits) and start paying up.  Till then, the real Chinese just treats the words of the gweilo as doggie fart. ...


Any chance of giving us an idea of how and why this debt is calculated, Tong?

Please also could you give us an idea of the capital improvements to Hong Kong, Kowloon and the New Territories which the Brits implemented over the last 150 years, prior to the handover to China?

I don't think we need yet worry about the billions in economic benefits which flowed on to southern Guangzhou province.

JB

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Post time 2006-6-15 05:41:38 |Display all floors

WHERE DID MENCIUS' POST GO?

This is ridiculous.

Mencius makes a challenge against the garbage which is spewed by Tong.
Mencius' post does not breach CD Forum guidelines, yet Tong's racist, slanderous lies are allowed to remain on the board, and Mencius' sensible & considered missives are removed simply because he's right.

How can China advance intellectually when the people only get exposed to biased self perpetuating rubbish.

JB
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Post time 2006-6-15 06:53:09 |Display all floors

What else will you be demanding, tong?

Originally posted by tongluren at 14-6-2006 08:30
China will be more receptive to lieing Brits when they own up to their debts to China (a trillion dollars, $16,000 apiece, men, women and children for all Brits) and start paying up.


Why should we? Your government doesn't ask us for a single Yuan. I think that shows one of the good points of the SWCC.

Tong, do you think we should press claims for compensation against the Italians for their invasion of Britain? Or perhaps Norway for the Viking raids. Let's see, and what about most of Eurasia, including China, demanding compensation from Mongolia over the Khans? (Hmm, might have a problem there - do you claim against Outer Mongolia or Inner Mongolia as well?!) Oh, and let's not forget that land Russia took off China and is still occupying. The rent on that must be huge, even bigger than a lump sum of money.

So, Tong, how much do you want from Mongolia and Russia, then?

I think your attitude is completely ridiculous. The Chinese government has the maturity to deal with its neighbours and other countries without resorting to compensation claims from so long ago. It even gave up on its most recent potential claim (Japan) in the 1970s or so. Going on about what Britain did is just a pathetic attempt to divert away from iculie's criticism.

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Post time 2006-6-15 08:58:41 |Display all floors

So Acknowledge That You're Benefiting From the Loot

Note that is it curious that the Brits will not (actually cannot) deny that they are benefitting from their ancestors looting of the peoples of the world.  All they have to say is that time has passed and nobody should do anything about it.  

O.K., time will tell.  Maybe next time the Brits will be on the receiving end.  Who knows, time will pass, right?  

What about all the loot still being displayed in the various museums on the Brit. Isles?  You thieves intend to keep those too?

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Post time 2006-6-15 09:10:22 |Display all floors

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Japan will be more receptive to such arguments when China decides to remember its own atrocities.


That's odd; the criminal goes into a neighbour's house and kills, then as he leaves, he turns around and with a grin says:

"you can only ask me to atone for my sins after you have atoned for yours."

The very crimes that they had committed DISQUALIFY them from even making such a request.  Are you saying that if you commit an atrocity, no one should ask you to atone for whatever reason?

Come on, you can do better than this.

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Post time 2006-6-15 12:28:19 |Display all floors

Exactly

Originally posted by emucentral at 2006-6-15 05:41
This is ridiculous.
Mencius makes a challenge against the garbage which is spewed by Tong.
Mencius' post does not breach CD Forum guidelines, yet Tong's racist, slanderous lies are allowed to remain on the board, and Mencius' sensible & considered missives are removed simply because he's right.
How can China advance intellectually when the people only get exposed to biased self perpetuating rubbish.


My two posts were deleted three times before they were allowed to stick (for the time being). 'Acceptable' replies seem not only to depend upon a lack of criticism, but also on the presence of a response, however weak and puerile, from the party faithful.

CD just doesn't get it. China craves respect from the rest of the world; she will never get it as long as mainstream thinking rejects counter-argument. Let's all have the opportunity to express our thoughts, preferably in a rational, non-infantile manner. It's neither a forum nor a debate if all viewpoints are not considered.

The thread title is China and Japan pave way to better relations. If CD can't see that there are two sides to this issue, then they're in serious need of a management overhaul.

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