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Post time 2006-6-20 19:02:26 |Display all floors
Originally posted by caringhk at 2006-6-20 13:52
Famous Emperor Kang Xi, Qian Loong always like to mix Han culture into their rule!!!


I know that, lots of people admire him, and it's said to be the "Kang qian sheng shi"--the glorious time from Kang xi to Qian long, and a lot of TV series love to boasting about it, I can't help laughing looking at those tv series licking the dead's boots
...the real history's really petty and lame compared with the glorious former ones.

It is still a fact he wasn't Chinese, which has nothing to do with wether he learn Han culture or nor, actually those other emperors in Qing dynasty learn about Han, too. But the problem is they forbid Han people get to know their own culture and history, they destroyed historical records, the "character prison", Kang xi's no better than his former or latter. They forbid Han people to wear their own ethinic costume. while the emperor themselves secretly put on it for fun, they forbid their people to marry Han people(cause they believe it'll stain their blood)..and the situation got so terrible that they have to abolish it later.

People say Kang xi's contributions---unified Tai Wan, signed the treaty of Nipchu with Russia, however the first one is just the purpose to slaughter and invasion of the last few Han people stayed in Tai wan, who refused to be invaded by the different race, and the treaty Kang xi signed with Russian is actually a witness of the weakness the military was, China had to give in and lost a few northern territory. If you look at Ming dynasty, China had one of the most advanced technology in the world, when powder, firearms, artillery had been applied in  war, however in Qing dynasty the situation became regradation. And in Qing dynasty the governor forbid civilian to learn martial arts, with the fear that they'll rebell, art, technology lagged behind the world.

As for art, handcrafts and architecture, art and furniture design(which was a gem in Ming dynasty) of Qing dynasty are recognized as the most tacky taste.

As for military it could not compare with Han dynasty, as for open-minded society and communication it can't compare with Tang dynasty, as for art and literature
no one could compare with Song dynasty, as for technology and development it can't compare with Ming dynasty.

The country closed the door to the outside world(as early as in early Qing) , people's mind were restricted, military was restricted, sporting was restricted, art and creation were restricted...if to choose a lameset era, that's definitely Qing dynasty.

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Post time 2006-6-20 19:08:08 |Display all floors

Egypt ...

For their amazing constructions :)
Take me down to the paradise city, where the grass is green and the girls are pretty

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Post time 2006-6-21 19:59:24 |Display all floors
I see!!

That's why they say Ming comes first before Qing!!!

Now all are history.

Originally posted by superkylin at 2006-6-20 19:02

I know that, lots of people admire him, and it's said to be the "Kang qian sheng shi"--the glorious time from Kang xi to Qian long, and a lot of TV series love to boasting about it, I c ...
What's on your mind now........ooooooooooooooo la la....Kind Regards

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Post time 2006-6-22 12:46:16 |Display all floors

Reply #6 joehsu's post

that's a good one!

The Han dynasty chased the Hun Westward....
The Huns is responsible for the destruction of the Roman Empire...
and from the ashes of the Roman Empire....came the European nation states..

who came and repay the honour in form of colonizing Africa, India..
and the British and Jews fed China OPIUM....
which collapse the imperial system in China!!!!!


ha ha ha ha ha

Green Dragon

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Post time 2006-6-22 13:46:21 |Display all floors
Originally posted by greendragon at 2006-6-22 12:46

and the British and Jews fed China OPIUM....
which collapse the imperial system in China!!!!!


Oh, the imperial system was done anyway. It rot from within.
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Post time 2006-7-2 09:48:33 |Display all floors

historical means extinction,kapisch

they have to be extinct to qualify
how cool could that be

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Post time 2006-7-2 09:57:02 |Display all floors

conquering China at your own perils

all the foreigners came in as mighty conquerors but  turned into Chinese later.

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