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Post time 2006-2-9 19:12:10 |Display all floors

the police should be more responsible too

hence the force needs reform and new blood
and the c c p should control their forces better
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Post time 2006-2-9 19:22:52 |Display all floors
Originally posted by pinko7 at 2006-2-9 18:01
"I don't think foreigners get special treatment in China"
"It's just that the police is not likely to interfere until a certain level has been reached."
>>>that's special treatment


Clarification: regardless of nationality, the police doesn't interfere until a certain level has been reached. I have seen several times how the police observes a scene before intervening, to get a clear picture.
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Post time 2006-2-9 20:01:45 |Display all floors

no worries

but what isn't clear about wankers obstructing the road?
the police aren't paid to observe
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Post time 2006-2-9 20:25:57 |Display all floors

its just one of those "greyish" areas

It's a political thing that the police have to deal with. Their not trained for that kind of situation. Locking them up for that is kind of extreme but I'm sure that Pinko7 is probably thinking in the lines of what would happen if this caused major accidents or it blocked the way of an ambulance or something like that.

Probably is the same in other countries where you get the childish tourists, but still I think its pretty damn disrespectful!
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Post time 2006-2-9 20:29:52 |Display all floors

it's one of those things that could end really badly

i remember in melbourne a few years back some idiots stole a paramedic's keys to his ambulance...not such a big theft...but it could have had dire consequences....they were not imprisoned but they had to pay quite a substantial fine
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Post time 2006-2-11 21:59:50 |Display all floors

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Originally posted by lunafils at 7-2-2006 08:45
Many guys from West talked about freedom all the time. They think Chinese peolple are oppressed.
I wanna know What freedom is ilke in their countries? Is there any limitation on freedom there?


Yes of course there are limits to what we can do. As the others said, what those Americans did would not be legal. In the UK it is called a "breach of the peace" and they would be arrested. Blocking the traffic is also an offence. So of course we have laws to stop disruptive behaviour.

But the difference is when people are expressing real views, acting peacefully, etc. For example:

*We have the right to practice our religion how we like without restriction or State manipulation.
*We have the right to access publicly available information on the internet or through the general media.
*We have the right to elect our leaders directly, stand for election ourselves and form political parties.
*We have the right to voice our views peacefully on any subject in public, so long as they do not incite violence etc.
-We also have the right to stage protests or demonstrations without threat of arrest.

So I guess that is what freedom is for us.

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Post time 2006-2-12 19:02:50 |Display all floors

freedom

*cheer*
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