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Post time 2006-1-13 19:16:48 |Display all floors
Originally posted by chrissun at 13-1-2006 08:57
I believe the men who stuck in cold war mentality are you guys.


You guys refer to us as THE WEST. We refer to you as China. What does that say about who has a "Cold War mentality"?

China is a threat because china is ruled by a Communist Party, do you guys think so?


Not at all. To be quite honest, how can China be a threat to someone like myself in Europe? Seriously. We are perhaps the safest place to be if China wanted to attack anyone. But anyway the C.C.P. is not likely to try to start a conflict (well perhaps through joint-brinkmanship) as it requires peace and stability to stay in charge. Some people even say that China would be more dangerous if a highly nationalistic government were elected in the future.

My objection to some of the things that goes on in China are purely to do with Chinese people and my own feelings. As I said before, I can just reap the benefits of China without many complaints or problems. But to do that would be selfish.

But thirty years ago, Can you imagine China will ride on the crest of a wave under the leadership of a Communist Party. We got it, right? C.C.P are more dynamic than you expected.


And how much time was lost because of the C.C.P.? 20 years? More if you include the damage done?

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Post time 2006-1-13 19:38:07 |Display all floors
government is government,  whatever who governs the country,  they will protect their own interest first,  don't count on that communist party is so lofty as to they will put people first. if someone is normal,  he can understand that. most of the time the governmnt just does things to hype their policies to maintain their govenance.
i don't mean that communist party is not a good ruling party, i just say that we should have a wise eye to any government.

as long as a government can maintain a stable economic development,  as long as a government can provide a good environment, as long as a government can let the mass make a living, i surport it.

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Post time 2006-1-13 20:01:47 |Display all floors

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Originally posted by chrissun at 13-1-2006 08:12
I happen to work for media in China. Yes, there must be some biased reports about Japanese, but It’s totally unacceptable for your opinion. Most reports about Japan are objective.


It depends on what you're thinking about. You accused foreign media of talking about China in a certain way that exaggerated the negative points. No one can deny the points raised, unless you are simply accusing them of lying all the time. No, it's more that some do not stress positive points enough - at least that is what I think you are saying. And I asked the same question of the Chinese media's attitude towards Japan.

I can read the Chinese media - Chinadaily is often called the "Window to China" is it not? Xinhua is in English as well. And my Chinese friends tell me about the other domestic publications as well. And from my perspective the majority of commentary about Japan is negative. That is not to say that the articles are wrong. But the amount of time that seems to be taken talking about the Asian war, Yasukuni, textbooks, the Senkakus and EEZ disputes, etc rather puts a slant on the Sino-Japanese relationship. Commentary articles discuss how Japan is "wrong" period.

There have been articles in different non-Chinese media groups that I have seen asking, "hey, slow down a minute - is China really a threat? Aren't we just over-egging this a fair bit?" I have not seen any such self-reflection from the Chinese media in that perhaps Japan is being dealt a bit of a raw deal in terms of media coverage in China (bar an article that I have supplied below). Let's look at what the Chinadaily commentary has on Japan:

Japan divided on neighbourly ties( 01-09 05:45)
Japan's playing of ideological cards harms ties with China( 01-03 06:40)
Shrine visits sour Sino-Japanese ties( 12-31 07:09)
Japan should reflect on its own policies( 12-26 05:36)
What will Koizumi's legacy be?( 12-21 06:31)
Japanese diplomacy has led to isolation in Asia( 12-15 06:25)

When the issue of Japan is raised, it's normally done negatively and putting the blame squarely on Japan. And, although this is not official commentary, the old "readers' voice" articles on Japan used to be dominated by a certain member of this forum that also believes in global Zionist conspiracies. They were extremely vitriolic, scaremongering and generally paranoid about Japan reinvading China. This person was actively encouraging China to attack Japan to defeat it completely, etc. Given that they were selected by Chinadaily editors, are you telling me that Chinadaily did not agree with such paranoid delusions? Please tell me that they were a gross mistake and that such tripe will never be put forward again. Or do they give an indication that in reality Chinadaily (and other parts of the Chinese media) like those views?

I know perfectly well that China and Japan have not given up on improving relations. If they did then I don't know what would happen But, just as negative reports about China are sometimes given too much "air time" outside of China, negative reports about Japan dominate the agenda in China. How many Chinese people do you think heard about the Sino-Japanese forum compared to those that heard about Koizumi's latest visit to Yasukuni? There is no way the two will compare. I am sure that the odd positive thing gets into the Chinese media, but it is not given much space or consideration.

Why don't you read an old article I posted ages ago. It's my only "digest" post.

http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/vie ... ge=1&highlight=

I think that is an excellent piece. Now I am surprised why more of the Chinese media doesn't ever consider such a view. In reality the Chinese media makes it very difficult to improve relations because they focus Chinese people's minds on the past and the negative aspect of Japan, rather than encourage them to work towards a better future concerning Sino-Japanese relations. Then the Japanese media recycles those negative views of Japan from China, adding to the problem.

So as I said, China is guilty of doing to Japan what it also accuses foreigners of doing to itself.

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Post time 2006-1-13 20:49:23 |Display all floors

disagree

i dont agree with your opiniom
China has a long and splendid history. why could  the feudality be prevailing such a long time??  whty ?
Undoubtedly, just the Confucianism ! The Confucianism occupied the culture of chinese nationality while not legist. In china, most people can live leisurely if having sufficient goods, The y dont know about human being rights ,

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Post time 2006-1-13 21:39:31 |Display all floors
my own opinion: japanese are gentle and cultivated, their technology and products are sophisticated and credible.
japan should remorse for their past and not to go yashgukuni shrine (they could find a better way to respect the war dead).

china will never invade japan.

jiapan may never win sino-japanese war again.

a vigilant neigbour will do good to china,  live with  suffering, die with ease.
we must safeguard the integrity of our territorial sovereignty.

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Post time 2006-1-13 23:15:11 |Display all floors

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Post time 2006-1-13 23:43:05 |Display all floors
Originally posted by chrissun at 13-1-2006 15:15
You must be idealistic. The development in any country will not be plain sailing. We do experience the difficult time, but it’s also good lessons and push us forward and never go back.


I do not consider those 20 years development. It was mostly wasted time that merely added to China's historical woes, as well as setting back its subsequent development.

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