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Post time 2005-10-18 23:06:53 |Display all floors

I read 21 centry

hello,everyone.I am a freshman in this club,so I hope to improve my english level in this way.My english is not very well,and I always buy the 21 centry to read.But my english  is still in the low level.Can you give me some suggestion?Do you think read novel can improve english level?

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Post time 2005-10-18 23:33:17 |Display all floors

Reply: What is reading efficiently?--My Opinion

I think it is important to choose good books /articles which will enrich your experiences and boarden your mind etc.  but not pulp novels for your lifelong reading because there are all kinds of countless books while  our time are quite limited!

I don't enjoy political news that much but when I studied English before and I had to force myself to read,listen and watch the political news. I wasn't able to  understand political news in Chinese at all, needless to political news in English. But step by step, I understood them bit by bit everyday. It boardened my mind indeed before and helped me to learn more about the outside. Though I give it up basically now. Most of time, I read some entertainment books for just killing time. Aha, don't follow me...

You can choose some books or articles , eg  famous novels , professional books which you study , for intensive reading  and all kinds of articles, such as news, scientist article, business articles, poetry, prose, novel  for extensive reading to boarden your mind but not only limitting in  that kind of articles you are only interested in. I suppose you will dont enjoy them at first but you keep on and I bet it will benefit  you a lot.

Of course, As an old saying goes, interesing is the best teacher. You certainly can choose the books you enjoy at first.

Well, Here is a famous article about  reading --"OF STUDIES" by Francis Bacon for your reference.


弗朗西斯·培根:《论读书》——王佐良译

论学习

弗朗西斯·培根
王佐良 译
http://www.readfree.net/bbs/read.php?tid=56170&fpage=1


读书足以怡情,足以傅彩,足以长才。其怡情也,最见于独处幽居之时;其傅彩也,最见于高谈阔论之中;其长才也,最见于处世判事之际。

练达之士虽能分别处理细事或一一判别枝节,然纵观统筹,全局策划,则舍好学深思者莫属。读书费时过多易惰,文采藻饰太盛则矫,全凭条文断事乃学究故态。

读书补天然之不足,经验又补读书之不足,盖天生才干犹如自然花草,读书然后知如何修剪移接,而书中所示,如不以经验范之,则又大而无当。

有一技之长者鄙读书,无知者羡读书,唯明智之士用读书,然书并不以用处告人,用书之智不在书中,而在书外,全凭观察得之。

读书时不可存心诘难读者,不可尽信书上所言,亦不可只为寻章摘句,而应推敲细思。

书有可浅尝者,有可吞食者,少数则须咀嚼消化。换言之,有只需读其部分者,有只须大体涉猎者,少数则须全读,读时须全神贯注,孜孜不倦。书亦可请人代读,取其所作摘要,但只限题材较次或价值不高者,否则书经提炼犹如水经蒸馏,淡而无味。

读书使人充实,讨论使人机智,笔记使人准确。因此不常做笔记者须记忆力特强,不常讨论者须天生聪颖,不常读书者须欺世有术,始能无知而显有知。

读史使人明智,读诗使人灵秀,数学使人周密,科学使人深刻,伦理学使人庄重,逻辑修辞之学使人善辩;凡有所学,皆成性格。

人之才智但有滞碍,无不可读适当之书使之顺畅,一如身体百病,皆可借相宜之运动除之。滚球利睾肾,射箭利胸肺,慢步利肠胃,骑术利头脑,诸如此类。如智力不集中,可令读数学,盖演题需全神贯注,稍有分散即须重演;如不能辩异,可令读经院哲学,盖是辈皆吹毛求疵之人;如不善求同,不善以一物阐证另一物,可令读律师之案卷。如此头脑中凡有缺陷,皆有特效可医。


OF STUDIES

Francis Bacon


Studies serve for delight, for ornament, and for ability. Their chief use for delight, is in privateness and retiring; for ornament, is in discourse;and for ability, is in the judgment and disposition of business.

For expert and execute, and perhaps judge of particulars, one by one; but the general counsels, and the plots and marshalling of affairs, come best form those that are learned. To spend too much time in studies is sloth; to use them too much for ornament, is affectation; to make judgement wholly by their rules, is the humour of a scholar.

They perfect nature, and are perfected by experience: for natural abilities are like natural plants, that need proyning by study; and studies themselves do give forth directions too much at large, except they be bounded in by experience.

Crafty men contemn studies, simple men admire them, and wise men use them; for they teach not their own use; but that is a wisdom without them, and above them, won by observation.

Read not to contradict and confute; nor to believe and take for granted; nor to find talk and discourse; but to weigh and consider.

Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed, and some few to be chewed and digested; that is, some books are to be read only in parts; others to be read, but not curiously; and some few to be read wholly, and with diligence and attention. Some books also may be read by deputy, and extracts made of them by others; but that would be only in the less important arguments, and the meaner sort of books; else distilled books are, like common distilled waters, flashy things.

Reading maketh a full man; conference a ready man; and writing an exact man.And therefore, if a man write little, he had need have a great memory; if he confer little, he had need have a present wit; and if he read little, he had need have much cunning, to seem to know that he doth not.

Histories make men wise; poets witty; the mathematics subtile; natural philosophy deep;moral grave; logic and rhetoric able to contend. Abeunt studia in morse.

Nay there is no stand or impediment in the wit, but may be wrought out by fit studies: like as diseases of the body may have appropriate exercises. Bowling is good for the stone and reins; shooting for the lungs and breast; gentle walking for the stomach; riding for the head; and the like. So if a man's wit be wandering, let him study the mathematics; for in demonstrations, if his wit be called away never so little, he must begin again. If his wit be not apt to distinguish or find differences, let him study the schoolmen; for they are cymini sectores. If he be not apt to beat over matters, and to call up one thing to prove and illustrate another, let him study the lawyers' cases. So every defect of the mind may have a special receipt.

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Post time 2005-10-19 00:07:52 |Display all floors

Stories for Children

Hi Changcheng,
Great to see you again! Though I don't enjoy Children stories now, I think those stories are not only for Children but alos for adults.
I gorged a lot of tales which are for Children if defined specifically. when I was a kid, I was attracted by the figures of mermaid, Snow White, Crystal Shoes etc. They are really wondelands in Children' s eyes.  But I don't think I really understood the connotation at all but the story only  when I was a kid.
Eg. I happened to re- read Little Mermaid in English again last year, I was moved by the mermaid 's true love to the prince and I begin to be able to understand what Hans Christian Anderson  wanted to say indeed now. And How can a little kid understand it even if with the help of parents?

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Post time 2005-10-19 00:27:24 |Display all floors

Poet

Hello LSR,
I am quite curious about how you keep your inspiration of poem sparkling. And Are you a professional poet, I mean,  do you make a living for it ?
I think it will be very painful if  professional artists lose their passion of creation or inspiration and the poetry is not same with the other products which are produced from assembly lines if  workers work hard . They are unique and the brainchildren of authors.
And artists should be true or they can't create the works which can really  moved their audience. But As time flying, how  do you  keep your heart clean or true or crystal as before?

Ha, I hope you can understand what I mean above.

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Post time 2005-10-19 07:49:47 |Display all floors

My reading goals are very modest.

Freshener, Thanks for sharing your thoughts and ideas. I am glad that you are moving forward on your reading. I have not done much since we talked last year, just finished about 20 books by Michael Connelly, T. Jefferson Parker, John Grisham, Nora Roberts, Stephen Frey, etc. Most of them are best selling novels. To me, reading novels is just for fun. I always enjoy the moments that my heart and mind are being caught through reading the stories about the people and things I know. Besides that, I did read a few for thinking, such as Mitch Albom’s Tuesdays with Morrie, Stephen Covey’s The Eighth Habit, Robert James Waller’s The Bridges of Madison County, etc. They are damn good but I would be out of patience if doing things like that too often. I am just a mediocre man and my reading goals are very modest.

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Post time 2005-10-19 08:37:15 |Display all floors

Hello Everyone

Welcome to Freshener, and Johndoe, and Changcheng, and anyone I missed.  Reading for your own reasons is a good topic, and I am interested in everyone's answers.  There is a similar thread on a NY publisher's website, for the writers there, and this is more interesting.

Thanks for all the sharing.  

Flora, I will post 2 specific replies to the English Poetry Post in Q&A to keep this one on Topic.

The things I read this week were "Sundiver", an SF novel by David Brin, and "Bob Dylan, Collected Lyrics".  I will soon be reading Amy Tan's new book ( It's in the mail from Amazon), "Saving Fish from Drowning".  

Ciao!!

LSR  龍詩人

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Post time 2005-10-19 08:48:09 |Display all floors

Missed a few!

I like to be fair.

So hello, Sophiaren and GZBoston, and welcome to the new person, Applegirlzyx.  

If you like SF, Sophiaren, have you read Lois McMaster Bujold?  All of her books are good, her best ones seem to be "Falling Free" and "Cordelia's Honor", in SF, and her latest trilogy of the Chalion world, which is magic Fantasy, but quite well written.

Au Revoir,

LSR  龍詩人

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