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Post time 2005-8-29 12:05:47 |Display all floors

Virginity is very important for Chinese woman

If a girl give her body to a man,she will miss him. Of course, she maybe not marry

him in this modern society.But it is not ordinary relationship after all.
Actually most adults,either women or men, need sex.But it's too dangerous for

single women, if they haven't the plan to marry.They will be hurted,if they get

pregnant or std.It's pity. They should masturbate themselves,if they feel empty and

can not control themselves.

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Post time 2005-8-29 13:57:46 |Display all floors

Since Ancient times, Virginity is very important for Chinese woman!!!

Haiyun,Wingheart is right!!! It is chinese culture!

Liangzai or Liangfly probably is filled with lusty feelings he saw in the West. And he wanna spread these to the East. Too much porn???
Or too many easy chinese/Koreans,Japanese girls? Cos you were in the bars!!! What do you expect in the wrong place!!! And he thinks it is alright to aroused innocent people. See No evil,DO No Evil.

As mentioned b4,LiangFly, Shit is sweet, taste good and smells like flowers!!! But only to Flies!!! When your deeds are heavy-weight enough
and full of negatives, see you "fly". Drown in your ocean of sorrows.

Kind regards

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Post time 2005-8-29 17:10:24 |Display all floors

caringhk

Liangzai is a viking boy fagot, he needs to be saved by his jesus christ.

Frankly, I find his arguments are just stereotyping and generalizations, lacking depth, so didn't bother counter-arguing him.

LOLA

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Post time 2005-8-30 02:33:25 |Display all floors

to stay a virgin when u can untill marriage is a gud thing..

Well.. as a 17 y.o girl that haven't lose her virginity. heheHe.. to stay a virgin before marriage is just a way to show that u -respect- alot of things.

1.U respect your mom coz she wants u to have a safe sex after marriage(when the guy can be responsible for ur baby and urself) and a good healthy life. u see.. my mom always tells me about these things. becoz she love me and have done a lot of things for me, show her respect is a way of paying her back... i think most girls will think so..most girls..aite?

2.U respect your guy.. the guy u will be married to. i think he will be proud of u for staying clean,being patient waiting for the right guy that that is him and for not giving up ur virginity on sum random guy that u think is gud enuf to waste ur virginity on. while that random guy just think of u as  a one-nite stand... or worst..u just dunnOw,u can't guarantee,aite?..

3.U resPect the old beliefs&chinese traditions.. i'm a chinese blooded but indonesian,i'm a christian. but i stil respect the chinese old traditions,though sometimes they're against the christian beliefs, but i still do it out of respect for my parents who are real chinese.i admit i do think some of chinese beliefs are not quite right. but  as a human who have a brain and heart, i guess u can judge for urself what is wrong or right to do..when u do sumthing wrong, ur heart knows it.. u cant lie to urself..aite?

4.U respect God..this is a christian belief. staying a virgin before marrige means not having sex untill marriage..In the bible,it says so. Your body and soul is a holy living place for God to stay in.. u have to keep it clean from sin and those sex stufF bla bla..see..God loves us,he wants to keep us clean from sin.. so that when we die.. hell is not our option to go to..do u know the day when we die? no rite.. so repent,stay clean,and pray for God to guide u! hehehe.. i say this coz i am a christian....please.. no offense to other religion..

5.last but not lease... u Respect urself.... after all u face urself each night reviewing the things u've done..and u don't wanna look back on this topic and regret.. aite?

That's all mate..this is purely my own opinion.i dunt blame anyone for having a different opinion.. jUst wanna shout out my angle of seeing things.. Alas.. Be BlesseD~~~

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Post time 2005-8-30 06:07:11 |Display all floors

Re: to stay a virgin when u can untill marriage is a gud thing..

No, it isn't.

"1.U respect your mom coz she wants u to have a safe sex after marriage(when the guy can be responsible for ur baby and urself) and a good healthy life."

Incidentally, the Western freedom coincides with the advent of safe contraceptives and the liberation of the woman. You CAN have safe sex without being married. And you CAN have UNSAFE sex while being married, because the guy (usually) screws others (in China this is most likely to be his 姘头or a KTV 小姐, sometimes a massage girl).

Besides, your MOM has NOTHING to do with YOUR sexuality. It is YOURS, and yours ONLY.

"2.U respect your guy.. the guy u will be married to. i think he will be proud of u for staying clean,being patient waiting for the right guy that that is him and for not giving up ur virginity on sum random guy that u think is gud enuf to waste ur virginity on."

Why would you want to respect the guy when he in all likelihood will not reciprocate? That is, HE in most likelihood will not respect you by keeping HIS virginity til the marriage day.

And why do you think keeping the virginity is respecting this FUTURE guy, of whom you know nothing about? I'd say that keeping your virginity is to DISRESPECT him, since you will be untrained and therefore less satisfying to him in sexual matters. Of course, if both are untrained and thinks that sex is five minutes of quick coitus starting at the age of 24, then I guess it is OK...

"3.U resPect the old beliefs&chinese traditions.. i'm a chinese blooded but indonesian,i'm a christian. but i stil respect the chinese old traditions,though sometimes they're against the christian beliefs, but i still do it out of respect for my parents who are real chinese"

Well, I am neither Chinese nor Christian (nor anything else, for that matter), so my viewpoint is that traditions are oftentimes just a burden, since they reflect OLDER thinking that does NO LONGER APPLY. Christianity, for instance, has this sex taboo in its teachings because of historical reasons. You see, in the height of the Greco-Roman times, people were having free sex just as they have today, and even worse. But in those times, there was no modern medicine, and there was no social safety for women, who were considered unfree. Thus, the two main problems with sex -- unwanted pregnancy and disease -- were creating a social problem, which Christianity took upon its shoulder to rid.

Today, modern medicine -- and safe contraceptives exist, and in many places the women are free. Thus, the only thing that is making Chinese traditions valid is the fact that women has not yet been fully liberated in China; she is still in the harness of her 老公 and other patriarchal figures until she can support herself and her baby (most can't in today's China).

Tradition itself is not worth considering; it merely takes listing some bad traditions (such as bound feet) to realize this.

"4.U respect God..this is a christian belief. staying a virgin before marrige means not having sex untill marriage..In the bible,it says so."

Sorry, but there is no God. Even if you think so, you should consider the historical outline above and the reasons to why Christianity intereferes in people's sex life.

"5.last but not lease... u Respect urself.... after all u face urself each night reviewing the things u've done..and u don't wanna look back on this topic and regret.. aite?"

Yeah, you should respect yourself. You should realize that you have the right to experiment on you own and discover your own sexuality, slowly learning what is good for you and what your preferences are. This will enable you to choose a man that fits you sexually as well as mentally, rather than just facing the facts after being married a while. This is what sexual freedom in the West is all about, since people in the West also get married and give their bodies to a single person.

I often wonder... those who keep their virginity until marriage and regret their choice (if indeed they have a choice) afterwards, what do they do?

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Post time 2005-8-30 06:28:23 |Display all floors

Re: Since Ancient times, Virginity is very important for Chinese woman!!!

Yeah, but that's only because she's had no say in the matter. It has been important because others have said so.

caringhk wrote: "Liangzai or Liangfly probably is filled with lusty feelings he saw in the West. And he wanna spread these to the East. Too much porn???"

No need to spread those lusty feelings to the East; they are as rampant here as in the West.

caringhk wrote: "Or too many easy chinese/Koreans,Japanese girls? Cos you were in the bars!!! What do you expect in the wrong place!!! And he thinks it is alright to aroused innocent people."

Actually, I rarely frequent those bars, and very rarely those bars where laowais hang out. I base my results on what I have seen in my 100% Chinese environment, and what I see is unmarried young girls (and boys) having sex, casual as well as in a loser relationship, living together or not.

Of course, the grip of Ancient Times is of course stronger in the 落后 countryside. This is to be expected. But in the big cities, people are just being practical and don't care too much about the Ancients; they realize they only live once and they want to get something out of life.

I've never been with a Korean or Japanese babe. Although I am very attracted to such girls, I do have a Chinese 未婚妻, and thus it is too late doing a Japanese tour on the girlie front. Being free also means you can choose NOT to have sex with everyone you see, and in reality you will find that most Westerners are oftentimes very picky about who they sleep with. Just because you CAN doesn't mean you HAVE TO or SHOULD. With freedom also comes responsibility.

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Post time 2005-8-30 14:59:28 |Display all floors

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