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Post time 2005-7-28 17:42:46 |Display all floors

110,000 Killed in Iraq?or was it 200,000. based on "conservative assumptions",

The Lancet used sophisticated scientific methods for the survey, it came up with over 100,000. The USA war machine is desperately covering up this figure.

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The NEW SCIENTIST claims 200,000 is possible  if Falluja is included.

NewScientist.com news service
The World's No.1 Science & Technology News Service


The invasion of Iraq in March 2003 by coalition forces has lead to the death of at least 100,000 civilians, reveals the first scientific study to examine the issue.

The majority of these deaths, which are in addition those normally expected from natural causes, illness and accidents, have been among women and children, finds the study, released early by The Lancet on Thursday.

The most common cause of death is as a direct result of violence, mostly caused by coalition air strikes, reveals the study of almost 1000 households scattered across Iraq. And the risk of violent death just after the invasion was 58 times greater than before the war. The overall risk of death was 1.5 times more after the invasion than before.

The figure of 100,000 ?estimated by extrapolating the surveyed households?death toll to the whole population - is based on "conservative assumptions", notes Les Roberts at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Baltimore, US, who led the study.

That estimate excludes Falluja, a hotspot for violence. If the data from this town is included, the study points to about 200,000 excess deaths since the outbreak of war.



http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6596

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Post time 2005-7-29 08:40:50 |Display all floors

"Everyone in this forum knows ..."

Firstly, I would only say the American haters agree with you and this is not everyone.

"There has been no official figure for the number of Iraqis killed since the conflict began 18 months ago, but some non-government estimates have ranged from 10,000 to 30,000.

The researchers surveyed nearly 1000 Iraqi households in September, asking how many people lived in the home and how many births and deaths there had been since January 2002."

That is 1000 households. I don't want to argue the number because we could be here forever. Read the article again.

The point being how many did the terrorists kill? How many were killed under Sadame? How many died a natural death? How many died by Iraqi killing Iraqi?

Many many questions to your badly painted picture.

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Post time 2005-7-29 09:39:40 |Display all floors

Thank you for the update on Iraqi war death, Chris

I obviously missed the news.

Ignore the stupid fish, s/he can't talk about the facts except distracting.

Do we hate her/him? a fish?

We steam and fry fish.

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Post time 2005-7-30 01:09:01 |Display all floors

uluv2bs

Ask :

1.....................The New scientist

2....................The Lancet


OR..............believe the controlled USA media and USA military

Your choice..........I know you will side on anything which supports  the USA/Israel/ UK attack on Iraq. This attack was for Israel deep down even you know this.

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Post time 2005-7-30 01:27:44 |Display all floors

shanhuang, he is a small fish but part of the cover up.

Sure,  100,000 is a minimum figure using scientific analysis. Fish is a small fish in the Zionist pool but he tries to keep this figure from being generally known.

He has the gaul to say the Lancet AND the New Scientist are wrong.

This is a cover-up  by the USA/Israel/UK  allaince . Nobody would  expect them  to ADMIT killing over 100,000.

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Post time 2005-7-30 04:12:07 |Display all floors

New Study Raises Iraq Death Toll

Source in The Age (Australia)
Also in http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/071305K.shtml

New Study Raises Iraq Death Toll
By Irwin Arieff
The Age (Australia)

Wednesday 13 July 2005

Nearly 40,000 Iraqis have been killed as a direct result of combat or armed violence since the US-led invasion. It is a figure considerably higher than previous estimates, a Swiss institute reported yesterday.

The public database Iraqi Body Count, by comparison, estimates that between 22,787 and 25,814 Iraqi civilians have died since the March 2003 invasion, based on reports from at least two media sources.

No official estimates of Iraqi casualties from the war have been issued, although military deaths in the US-led coalition forces are closely tracked and now total 1937.

The new estimate of more than 39,000 was made by the Geneva-based Graduate Institute of International Studies and published in its latest annual small arms survey.

It builds on a study published in The Lancet, a British medical journal, last October that said there had been 100,000 "excess deaths" in Iraq from all causes since March 2003.

The Swiss institute said it arrived at its estimate of Iraqi deaths resulting solely from combat or armed violence by re-examining the data gathered for the Lancet study and classifying, when it could, the cause of death.

Its 2005 small arms survey finds that conflict deaths from small arms have been vastly under-reported in the past, not just in Iraq but around the world.

The number of direct victims of such weapons was likely to have totalled 80,000 to 108,000 during 2003, compared to earlier estimates by other researchers of 27,000 to 51,000 deaths that year.

The under-counting is due mainly to a lack of hard data and an over-reliance by analysts on estimates based on government and media accounts of wars, which were often inaccurate. The number of indirect deaths around the world that can be blamed on small arms has also been underestimated, as these types of weapons typically trigger significant social disruption that leads to secondary causes of death, according to the survey.

Depending on the nature of the conflict, small arms caused between 60 per cent and 90 per cent of all direct war deaths, the study said.

Despite billions of dollars of improvements, thousands of jammers and tonnes of armour plate, the so-called improvised explosive devices in Iraq killed more Americans in May and June than in any previous months, US military figures show. Attacks in May alone reached 700, and the roadside bombs, car bombs and other devices are now the cause of more than half of US casualties in Iraq.

Another US soldier died of injuries he received when his vehicle hit a landmine west of Baghdad, the US military said yesterday. Iraqi insurgents killed 11 soldiers on Monday following a spate of seven suicide bombings on Sunday that killed at least 34 people.

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Compiled from Reuters, AP, and Newsday.

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Post time 2005-7-30 04:47:22 |Display all floors

cndaily I looked at the survey, 100,000 looks as close as we will ever get

"Its 2005 small arms survey finds that conflict deaths from small arms have been vastly under-reported in the past, not just in Iraq but around the world.

    The number of direct victims of such weapons was likely to have totalled 80,000 to 108,000 during 2003, compared to earlier estimates by other researchers of 27,000 to 51,000 deaths that year."


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But remember people are still dying there, I think Israel should pay compensation to Iraqi victims

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