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Thank you thestud for making the picture viewable on the thread. It's so beautiful. I have kept this picture for many years by now. I am especially glad that chairman understood it -- it tells so much.|
I think both of you can write very well, much better than I do. This is in fact the first forum I participated. I thought it could help me and keep me from forgetting English. Then of course the inevitable happened as we all know -- I joined in the army. :))
I remember the first time when I saw those "democracy" lectures I just couldn't help myself but dumping my anger because it was such an hypocrisy. So I created a thread and immediately an army jumped in on me.... I realized the subject of my thread was too broad that it was hard to focus to have a meaningful debate. After that I learned to choose subjects that are not too big so we could easily go for the facts. But that was my initial experience. :)
The first time I met 'ts' I thought he was evil, he would pick up any garbages on the streets and hang on China forum. After fighting with him for a while I realized that he had his background, his history books, his long time picture of China. So it's OK, let him post whatever he wants, but he must face the consequences of debate, I will hunt him down with facts whenever I want to. And I did. I am not angry at him any more and he knows that.
As you know I spent most of my time in Changing China and US-China forums, rarely go to other ones, in fact, I didn't even notice your fights until all these open-letters came out. However, I did wander into Free Talk one day and got into He Dan's thread because he had this serious title "China doesn't allow me to vote" (something like that..) and you know what, I found a very funny story: He Dan was nervously screaming that China blocked his voting site, he even had email from US embassy or something as proof, and someone also offered to help him get the papers, then 'ts' dropped in and brought him a number of emails telling him that Pentagon did it !! I was laughing and laughing, so attempted to drop a line saying "Sorry, I opened a wrong door, I didn't mean to...." but I didn't. You see, they are open to each other. I am afraid the atmosphere would be totally different if I were there. Because we have this distance, little trust, less understanding. Anyway, that was a funny story.
I think both of you have a lot lighter moments in this forum just by reading a few of your posts. In fact, I was trying to remember chairman's "never forget" items the other day, :) not even noticed the fights. Anyway, the room seems a little quieter today and I hope we all find peace. You know what, I now start to think probably you guys including your "enemies" were all enjoying each other !!
But, I do think some of our forumites feel frustrated from time to time because it was so hard to get communicated with each other, me too sometimes. Some of us, Chinese and Americans, do want to understand each other better. So, let's try our best.
Hey, thestud, what did you use to shrink the picture? It was huge. Sometimes, I like to trace the Wall on a big screen and guess which section I had hiked on!
ts, I know you are reading our private conversations here...