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"Democracy" of the west taken to extreme [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2019-7-27 18:14:57 |Display all floors
The "free world" under the influence of the west has been following the western concept of "democracy", "freedom" and "human rights" (DFHR) for decades citing the "right to cast vote" for a government as the "ultimate right" of every individual. However, in many cases and countries, it seems more like the right to cast lots and hoping for the best outcome. The Gettysburg Address by Abraham Lincoln introduced a famous quote which says a government should be "of the people, by the people and for the people". While this sounds great and fantastic, this concept neglects to consider that among the people there are also rapists, muderers, sexual perverts, robbers, arsonists, and other criminals in general. It is common to find that victims of crimes (even heinous ones) do not often see justice carried out because of the emphasis on the rights of criminals. Not only is DFHR defective in the sphere of justice, it is also problematic in governance. Let's zoom in to China's territory, Hong Kong.

In the past many weeks, Hong Kong has been terrorised by pro-democracy rioters who started with anti-Extradition Bill. The reason for the protest is that political opponents of the government could be "unreasonably" repatriated to mainland China. Although the Bill was ammended to exclude political refugee in the Bill, it was not enough for the pro-democracy camp. It started off as peaceful but at the end of the day, when police started to remind them the time period of protest is over, there was a mayhem created by the protesters and police reacted to stop it. The western media started to get to work and quickly reported it as "police brutality" while disregarding the instigation and violence of the protesters. It was only later, when videos of the violence started to surface that the western media reluctantly mention "violence" by the protesters but leaving the "brutality" out. It is obvious that the western media is on the protesters' side. But why? It is in the name of DFHR. If DFHR is a perfect concept for governance, it should be supported but is it really so? The events that follow do not seem to indicate this.

Seeing that the protesters are still not satisfied with the ammendments of the Bill, the governer, Lam, invited them for a meeting to resolve all outstanding grievances that they may have but they rejected it. If the pro-democracy camp is truly sincere and concerned about the Bill, they should have met with Lam. Their rejection shows they have an ulterior motive and the Bill was just an excuse and a stepping stone to get what they truly want, which is independence for Hong Kong. The violence and protest is still going on in the name of DFHR. They are allowed to go on with this undeterred because Hong Kong is modelled after the DFHR concept of governance under the "One country Two Systems" agreement between China and the UK after the handover in 1997. Considering the past weeks of violence and unreasonable demands of the pro-democracy camp, it seems to show that the concept of DFHR can only produce chaos, division, and anarchy if taken to the extreme. That is what happens in Hong Kong.


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Post time 2019-7-28 16:07:49 |Display all floors
The pro-democracy camp and the western media have so far labelled the rioters as "protesters" whilst ignoring, or keeping quiet about, the vandalism and assaults carried out by their own protesters. The one time incident at Yuen Long station where their protesters are being attacked on a Sunday has been hyped up as "mob attack" and they are pushing the idea that they are backed up by the government without producing any concrete proof. While they are committing riots all these weeks, they blame the police for not coming to their rescue at the Yuen Long station. If this is the face of democracy, I would rather not think what anarchy is like.

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Post time 2019-7-29 10:03:37 |Display all floors
Freedom of speech is a fundamental right of people but it has to come with compromise and responsibility. No two people can agree on everything so there has to be a compromise or else there will be no end to arguments. However, there are people and media who would lie and spread disinformation and misinformation with half-truths by claiming the right to free speech and freedom of the press. By doing so they abuse the freedom accorded to them and this is the danger the world faces. Moderation is the key to this problem, not extremism. Extreme freedom of whatever causes selfishness, lawlessness, and havoc. Hong Kong is now is such a state. The pro-democracy camp should not just keep pushing their selfish agenda but accept that Hong Kong is part of China and the grace period of 50 years is only for them to adjust to China, not for them to  device ways to gain independence.

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Post time 2019-7-29 13:09:39 |Display all floors
re:   "Considering the past weeks of violence and unreasonable demands of the pro-democracy camp, it seems to show that the concept of DFHR can only produce chaos, division, and anarchy if taken to the extreme. That is what happens in Hong Kong."


  It goes back further, however, one can see it accelerate like a Tesla...

  Digging out pavement bricks to hurl at law enforcement, throwing 20 pound+fire extinguishers from 15' overhead walkways to law enforcement officers below, using powerful lasers, using hosed foam equipment for fire fighting in public train stations against officers, loading trolleys stacked high with cardboard and bamboo from construction sites - sprinkled with inflammatory liquid and pushed towards officers while covered by Media reporters...
   I could carry on, but them actions you will never see on Western media outlet.
               And All this taking place while the US and UK flags are being waved...
  
  I'm aware, foreign Media NEVER broadcast such video...

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Post time 2019-7-29 13:26:05 |Display all floors
In the area of human rights, apart from the basic needs such as food, shelter, clothing and education, it is a subjective matter. To borrow from a saying, "one man's meat is another man's poison", I would like to go on to say "one man's right is another man's trespass". It is common for certain western nations to insist that other countries follow their model of "human rights" disregarding the rights of other countries to decide and choose for themselves. It is also common to find activists belonging to organisations that are supported by these nations carrying out the mission of imposing their "rights" on others. Ironically, by doing so, they are actually denying others their rights. This is another major problem in the world detrimental to world peace.

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Post time 2019-7-29 13:35:07 |Display all floors
emanreus Post time: 2019-7-29 13:09
re:   "Considering the past weeks of violence and unreasonable demands of the pro-democracy camp, it ...

That is why we need to challenge the lies and half-truths of those lying media. By the way, why the Panda? I almost mistake you for Kbay.  

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Post time 2019-7-29 13:35:43 |Display all floors
...to be cont'd a few weeks later.

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