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IP Protection is a smokescreen , Sneaky US wants one thing ONLY, embarrasing    Close [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2019-1-30 04:59:30 |Display all floors
wchao37 Post time: 2019-1-29 15:30
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Show me one example, just one.  I know you can't, because that question has been  ...

Here are a few examples:

Segway vs Ninebot; typical Chinese business model is to copy, make a bunch of money, then buys off Segway to make their legal problems go away.

A Chinese govt-affiliated company named Sinovel vs American Superconductor; American Superconductor agreed and offered to provide controls if Sinovel produced the towers. Then one day the turbines just kept spinning without any input from the American firm. Turns out they bribed an employee with $2 million to give them code.

An US federal jury ruled last year that Huawei had to pay $4.8 million in damages to T-Mobile. A Huawei engineer stole secret technology related to T-Mobile’s smartphone-testing robot while visiting the company’s headquarters. Huawei has a long track record in intellectual property theft. In 2004 Cisco Systems, the market leader in routers, took Huawei to court for stealing its core router software code and using it in Huawei routers. The case was settled confidentially.

On February 28, 2007, a Motorola engineer named Hanjuan Jin was stopped by customs agents at O’Hare Airport. They searched her and found she had $30,000 in cash, a carry-on bag full of Motorola documents marked “confidential and proprietary,” and a one-way ticket for Beijing. She was arrested.

A pair of U.S. engineers were convicted for selling DuPont’s secret chemical formula for making Oreo cookies to a state-owned Chinese company.

In 2015, the federal government charged six Chinese citizens with stealing wireless communications technology from two Silicon Valley microchip makers, Avago and Skyworks, and launching their own company to sell that technology in China.  (Avago is now known as Broadcom.)

In August 2017, Taiwanese-American engineer Allen Ho was sentenced to two years in prison for providing nuclear energy technology information to China’s state-owned China General Nuclear Power Company (CGNPC).

In 2014, six Chinese nationals were arrested for attempting to steal genetically modified corn seeds from Dupont and Monsanto experimental farms in Iowa. The conspirators were employed by Chinese conglomerate DBN and its corn seed subsidiary, Kings Nower Seed. The Chinese government puts a high priority on agricultural development to feed its large and growing population.

According to a May 2017 Department of Justice press release, Chinese spy Xu Jiaqiang stole data storage technology from a US storage technology company for the benefit of China’s health system, the National Health and Family Planning Commission. Xu pleaded guilty to three counts of economic espionage and was sentenced to five years in prison.

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Post time 2019-1-30 05:00:12 |Display all floors
wchao37 Post time: 2019-1-29 15:30
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I replied with 9 examples. Let's see if it gets through the filters.

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Post time 2019-1-30 12:16:44 |Display all floors
This post was edited by robert237 at 2019-1-30 01:26
Boston101 Post time: 2019-1-29 13:00
I replied with 9 examples. Let's see if it gets through the filters.

IP protection IS a smokescreen used by the US.

Cases such as the ones you listed have been happening within the US since the industrial revolution.
How else could AMD make microprocessors that run the exact same instruction set as Intel's microprocessors?
You'd need a 20 volume book set to list all the cases such as the ones in your list within the US.
How can the US demand China do something that has proven impossible within the US?

The US has demanded an end to illegal drug use within its borders for decades but to no avail.

The US demanding China do something that the US has never successfully done is beyond ridiculous.
Why should the US demand that China protect US IP when the US has never been able to do this?
If capitalism promotes innovation and creativity then why aren't scientists and artists the richest people in a capitalist nation?

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Post time 2019-1-30 19:20:39 |Display all floors
IP theft is real. Companies spend billions to develop their goods. If the IP is stolen, they can't even recoup their development costs. If China doesn't kick it's IP theft addiction with real verification then the next round of tariffs (25% increase) will kick in.

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Post time 2019-1-30 19:22:17 |Display all floors
robert237 Post time: 2019-1-30 12:16
IP protection IS a smokescreen used by the US.

Cases such as the ones you listed have been happeni ...

China is like a kid with their hand in the cookie jar, trying to deny the theft. Those IP theft examples are only the tip of the iceberg.

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Post time 2019-1-31 07:33:24 |Display all floors
Boston101 Post time: 2019-1-30 05:00
I replied with 9 examples. Let's see if it gets through the filters.

That's so lame. Those are individual actions. It has nothing to do with China in general

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Post time 2019-1-31 18:15:15 |Display all floors
Oh how the Chinese can't help themselves stealing IP. This hit the news wire today:

Apple self-driving car project: Chinese engineer charged with stealing secrets.

The FBI is accusing a Chinese national of stealing trade secrets while working for Apple.

It alleges that engineer Jizhong Chen attempted to take key details from Apple's secretive self-driving car project. Chen was arrested and charged last week, just before he was scheduled to fly to China, according to a criminal complaint filed in US district court in California.

Apple said that if the confidential material got out, it would be "enormously damaging" for the company, the complaint said.
It's the second time in about six months that a Chinese national has been charged with stealing secrets from the Apple project, whose existence the company refuses to even acknowledge publicly.

Chen first aroused suspicion at Apple when a colleague reported seeing him taking photos of the self-driving car project with a wide-angle lens earlier this month, according to the complaint.


Apple launched an investigation, uncovering more than 2,000 files on Chen's personal computer containing confidential information, the court documents said. Investigators said they also found that Chen had taken photos of sensitive information displayed on his work computer screen, a move that bypassed Apple's monitoring of its networks.

The FBI said the engineer acknowledged that he had also backed up his Apple work computer to a personally owned hard drive, which goes against company policy.

Two photos in particular led to "instant criminal charges" against Chen, according to the complaint. One shows an assembly drawing of a wire harness for a self-driving car, and the other was a diagram showing how sensors interact with other parts of the car to make it drive autonomously.



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