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seneca Post time: 2017-2-15 09:27
Few people who are too lazy to familiarse themselves with the characters will become proficiewnt a ...

Written Chinese is a pictographic language. It is artistic and beautiful, but it is also difficult for those of us who are not "artistic" and in a hurry.

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1584austin Post time: 2017-2-15 23:12
written cantonese looks the same as written mandarin to me.

it was about my third trip to TW when ...

Umm, no. In CN they use simplified Chinese whereas in TW, they use a variation of traditional Chinese, which has slight variations to the Chinese used in HK and SG, pictographic-wise.

As an example, the word for "dragon" in simplified Chinese is whereas in "traditional" Chinese, it is
. I have since learned that simplified Chinese predates the PRC.

But your observation that many TW people understand some Cantonese agrees with mine. Most CN Chinese have difficulties with Cantonese.
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1584austin Post time: 2017-2-15 23:12
written cantonese looks the same as written mandarin to me.

it was about my third trip to TW when ...
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Ted180 Post time: 2017-2-15 23:06
Yet, by using the Pinyin letters, it could become more international.

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cestmoi Post time: 2017-2-16 08:31
Umm, no. In CN they use simplified Chinese whereas in TW, they use a variation of traditional Chin ...

Sorry I always understood that Simplified Chinese was mandarin and traditional was Cantonese

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1584austin Post time: 2017-2-16 15:53
Sorry I always understood that Simplified Chinese was mandarin and traditional was Cantonese

We are talking about dialects, rather than the pictographic script.

Traditionally, China was unified by its (written) script and divided by their (spoken) dialects. If we accept "Putonghua" as the correct spoken language ( the German equivalent is "Hochdeutsch" ), then Cantonese, Shanghainese, Fujianese etc are all dialects.

The characters for China are 中国 (simplified Chinese) or 中國 (traditional Chinese) and whether one speaks Cantonese or Shanghainese, one can read those words. They would pronounce them differently, but those characters mean the same thing to every Chinese regardless of their spoken dialect.

SImilarly, the nouns "London" and "English" are spelled the same whether one rhymes in Cockney or speaks in East Londonese.
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