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Post time 2016-11-10 08:32:50 |Display all floors
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Donald Trump's China Policies

Employment
"I'm going to bring jobs back from China. I'm going to bring back jobs from Mexico, and from Japan, where they're all - every country throughout the world -now Vietnam, that's the new one. They are taking our jobs. They are taking our wealth."
CBS News Republican Debate, February 13, 2016

Trade
"Our country is in deep trouble, and we don't know what we're doing when it comes to devaluation. All countries all over the world, especially China – they're the best ever at it. What they are doing to us is a very, very sad thing."
First Presidential Debate, Hofstra University, September 27, 2016

Infrastructure
"You land at LaGuardia, Newark, L.A.X., and you come in from Dubai and Qatar, you come in from China, you see these incredible airports. We've become a third-world country."
First Presidential Debate, Hofstra University, September 27, 2016

Climate Change
"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."


Trump is good for China-US relationship?

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Post time 2016-11-10 12:47:29 |Display all floors
America was tricked into accepting globalism by its multinational corporations who want to maximize their profits by producing goods in countries with the cheapest labor or cheapest raw ingredients and selling them in countries that can afford to pay the highest price.  In order to effect this, they must have the governments of the world agree not to impose import tariffs on all goods from each other.  While the deal is neutral between the two countries, in general, it is unequal in benefit to the manufacturers and to the workers, because while the manufacturers are assured of gathering the maximum profits, the workers in all countries are denied employment if their demanded wages are higher than those of workers in other countries, thus ensuring that the income and wealth gap between the manufacturers (and the banks that lend them money) and the workers keep getting wider and steeper.  Since this policy always favors the few rich and the expense of the many poor, the average standard of living of all countries engaged in such free trade (no tariff) agreements are in inexorable decline.  If China continues to depend on the globalist system to get rich, it will eventually face a crisis where the poor get too poor to survive and the rich get so rich they do not have to live or spend their fortunes in China.  This will cause serious social unrest, which fulfills the goals of the globalists to eradicate all sovereignty, and treat all countries as slave colonies, mining colonies, oil fields, etc., that have no commitment to the people inhabiting them as citizens, leaving them vulnerable to the most truculent violation of their human rights, which is their right to earn a living in order to feed themselves and their families, and to afford medical care for them as well.  So, Trump may not be good for China because he is a champion of the American people, but his policies will force China to adopt similar protocols to protect the Chinese workers, and thus the losers will be the MNC's, but the real winners will be the peoples of both countries, and their governments that would have tariffs to pay off their debts to the same banks lending to their treasury departments.

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Post time 2016-11-10 14:17:01 |Display all floors
A lot of things are said in the lead-up to an election. Whether or not those things are acted upon is yet to be determined. I say let's see what happens. Don't forget, just over half of the population bothered to exercise their right to vote. That's well over 100 million people who thought that their vote wouldn't make a difference, or who thought neither party was suitable, so decided not to vote.

It's still a month or two before Trump actually takes over from Obama. Let's let things cool down a bit, and see where it leads. Jumping to conclusions and assuming things is not going to help matters.
Stupid people are like Glowsticks. You want to snap them in half and shake the crap out of them until they see the light.
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Post time 2016-11-11 07:30:16 |Display all floors
abcfirst Post time: 2016-11-10 12:47
America was tricked into accepting globalism by its multinational corporations who want to maximize  ...

Trump will always be businessman first and politician second.

In business he understands the "property" language well.

Doesn't this suit the Chinese? Can't see how he'll pass good property ventures to his competitors in US. He has only a 5 years term in certainty after that its hard to tell if the Congress, Wall Street and the Pentagon can work with him. So domestically, why shouldn't he promote "development" in US, something he loves to make money from during these 5 years? Externally, without globalisation the US distribution network will come to a halt - that's pretty worse than what will happen to China. Imagine companies like Gillette not selling to the entire Asia. That's absolutely perfect for Asia to replace whatever Gillette is distributing. US producers will end his Presidency prematurely.

As for the income gap, this problem can never be eradicated but can be managed. Industrious people will continue to strive with high propensity while laidback ones continue to laze ignorantly. How is it possible that their wealth gap remain close? Its the social policy that is needed to assist the industrious one to redistribute some of their wealth to the lesser to maintain some degree social equilibrium - in the form of direct and indirect taxes. This is the balance which governments are hired to do as part of their job.

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Post time 2016-11-11 07:35:13 |Display all floors
cmknight Post time: 2016-11-10 14:17
A lot of things are said in the lead-up to an election. Whether or not those things are acted upon i ...

Mexico has already said they won't pay for the Trump Wall.

The best way forward is for Trump to reverse all the ills created by the Obama-Hillary team. At least he'll have a good scorecard. Clearly Obama failed to "CHANGE" anything, which is campaign call. Talk but no action. Iraq is still at war with US in after 8 years, so too Afghanistan but Obama now added Libya and Syria problems. Trump should really check for Middle East money that are applied to fund all the Middle East war which hardly brought any benefits to the larger American population but enrich only a few.  

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We shall see

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Trump will not be tricked by Chinese businessmen again, FYI.  He learned his lessons well.  Yes, he will do business based on mutual benefit, but not based on mutual promises or mutual trust, because he was cashed out before by his Hong Kong partners, whom he trusted, too much.  Don't bank on his greed either, to allow China to invest heavily in the US, buying up US real estate as its elite have been doing in China, which is nothing but a Ponzi scheme, where the loser is the last buyer before credit dries up.  Trump has a lot of experience and a lot of talent to lean on, when dealing with China.  Do not even think of outmaneuvering him in trade and investment.  It will only create bad vibes from the start, and the result would not be pretty.  Rather, with Trump, honesty is the best policy.  Listen to what kinds of products he does not want to import from China because they kill jobs, and then explain to him what kinds of products China does not want to import from the US because they kill industries.  Then bargain on how much tariff for how much import of goods or services each country should accept or reject, to make the deal fair and square.  As a businessman, he will at least understand when a deal is fair, and not be blinded by ideological zeal, to the detriment of both countries.  This is a big difference from Obama and Clinton, to whom ideological correctness drives their dealings with China, which basically categorizes China as an implacable enemy to be defeated, conquered and controlled, or if not, then destroyed - there can be no deal in short for China to live in peace and prosperity under such a view.

With Trump, China will have a chance at achieving reciprocity with America.  Nothing more.  But that, alone is light years ahead of whatever China could have achieved with Obama or Clinton.  Be thankful that Heaven has blessed America and the world, including China, with the Trump victory.  America will be great again, but not as a world policeman or bully, but simply as the world's most powerful and most secure country to which wealth will naturally flow, because all wealth seeks safety above all else.

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