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Post time 2004-9-17 21:42:44 |Display all floors
Here's another example of media bias.

Clinton's book has never sold for the $35 price stated in the article.  It's always been about $25 after taxes and/or shipping, even in the most affulent areas of the USA.

The USA federal minimum wage is about $5, so Clinton's autobiography sells for a price that's five times higher than the lowest paid worker in the USA earns in an hour.  A price that's less than five times the hourly wage of the lowest paid worker in China is too low a price.  Otherwise, a Clinton autobiography should be available to everyone who wants to own it.

I won't stop buying Chinese made products available in my area, so where's the chill that the businesses in the article are talking about?  Refusing to export to China will only expand the USA's trade gap.



NYTimes.com > Business > World Business  

U.S. Groups Press China Over Piracy
By CHRIS BUCKLEY

Published: September 17, 2004

BEIJING, Sept. 16 - It looks like the edition of Bill Clinton's memoirs in American bookstores. It is in English, has a glossy cover with the same photo of the tanned, smiling former president, the same bronze-tinted title, and a spine announcing its publisher to be Knopf.

But the shrunken print, tissue-thin paper and smeared black-and-white photographs inside betray its true identity - a pirated copy of the former president's book, "My Life," printed just weeks after the original appeared in the United States, and sold by roadside hawkers for as little as $5.

The book retails for $35 in the United States.

The bootlegging is another example of the widespread defiance of copyrights and patents here, a problem that two leading American business groups said on Thursday threatened to chill American trade with China.

In an otherwise encouraging annual report on American business in China released on Thursday, the American Chamber of Commerce in China singled out lax protection of intellectual property rights as the Achilles' heel that might cripple investor confidence.

"There's virtually no enforcement" of intellectual property rights in China, Charles Martin, president of the chamber, said at a news conference. "It's worsening, and there's now a flood of counterfeit exports."

Myron Brilliant, a vice president of the United States Chamber of Commerce in Washington, said his organization's annual report on China, to be released next week, would also single out intellectual property abuses as a major threat to American businesses.

"We see ourselves as friends of China, but our patience has its limits," Mr. Brilliant said in an interview. "The time is ticking for China on this front." Mr. Brilliant is in Beijing this week to press Chinese officials for stronger protection of industrial designs, patents and commercial secrets.

Violations of intellectual property rights have long irked Americans doing business in China, but both organizations emphasized that their members' impatience over the problem had reached new heights. Mr. Brilliant said top executives often raised the issue with him.

"That's a sea change," he said. "Before, this was just an issue for Hong Kong and China reps, but now it's the C.E.O.'s of major companies who are complaining to us."

Business executives said two recent decisions by the Chinese government particularly threatened to damp the enthusiasm of international investors.

One was a decision by China's patent office to override Pfizer's patent for its best-selling impotence drug, Viagra, arguing that the original patent did not adequately explain the drug's technical uses.

That was followed by the Ministry of Commerce's dismissal of a complaint that General Motors had lodged against a Chinese carmaker, SAIC Chery Automobile, which makes a car strikingly similar to G.M.'s Spark.

Other United States companies that have complained about flagrant copying of their products are in industries like software, cigarettes, luxury goods and vehicle parts. And growing numbers of the pirated goods are being imported into the United States, business representatives said.

The ease with which industrial secrets are stolen is putting a ceiling on American investment in China by deterring investment in more sophisticated fields of manufacturing and research, Mr. Martin said.

The China-based chamber's survey of its members found that although most were generally confident of their business prospects in China, 90 percent believed that the Chinese government's protections of intellectual property were ineffective, and more than three-quarters said their business was hurt by the problem.

Michael Byrne, the chief China representative of Rockwell Automation, a company based in Milwaukee that specializes in machine control, said that China's treatment of intellectual property "is moving in the right direction, but it's not moving fast enough or deep enough.''

"It hasn't deterred us," he said, "but it's made us more cautious."

The reports from both chambers of commerce did say that China has made marked progress in the last year in opening up its markets to international investors and clarifying commercial rules.

Last year, American businesses invested more than $4 billion in the country. But America's trade deficit with China has swelled, reaching $39 billion in the first seven months of 2004, according to Chinese customs statistics.

The trade gap is likely to cause American trade officials and businesses to push for faster and more decisive action from China, including harsher criminal penalties for bootleggers and speedier court injunctions against manufacturers of pirated goods.

If protections are not improved, Mr. Brilliant said, his organization may ultimately press for government legal action under United States trade law and China's commitments to the World Trade Organization.

"We're getting a lot of pressure from American business," he said. "Time is running out and we have to see movement this year."

The United States Chamber of Commerce is opening an office in Beijing to monitor China's efforts on intellectual property, and is working with Japanese and European business groups to press China on the issue.

As for the hawker selling President Clinton's memoirs opposite the World Trade Center in Beijing, he gave only his surname, Li, and said he could not read English and had never heard of a more recent political best seller, Kitty Kelley's book on the Bush family.

But he said he was sure that pirated copies would be available soon.

"If it's that popular," he said, "then wait a few weeks and come around here and find me."
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Post time 2004-9-18 04:15:18 |Display all floors

what?

"Here's another example of media bias."

This is not media bias in the least.  It's an article citing multiple sources about a serious problem that affects both our countries.  It would be media bias to NOT report such things.  I didn't see any commentary by the writer, calling China names or saying bad things about it.

"Clinton's book has never sold for the $35 price stated in the article. It's always been about $25 after taxes and/or shipping, even in the most affulent areas of the USA."

Well, it says $35 on the cover, which is the list or suggested retail price.  No one pays list or MSRP for anything in the US.  Usually 30% below that at the very least.  That does not constitute false advertising or reporting.

"The USA federal minimum wage is about $5, so Clinton's autobiography sells for a price that's five times higher than the lowest paid worker in the USA earns in an hour. A price that's less than five times the hourly wage of the lowest paid worker in China is too low a price. Otherwise, a Clinton autobiography should be available to everyone who wants to own it."

What the hell does this prove?  I highly doubt a single minimum wage earner in the US bought this book.  Most minimum wage earners are high school or college students earning extra money for school, books or fun.  Buying Clinton's book is not high on their list and price is not the reason.  Filling up a car with gas costs more than Clinton's book and plenty of kids can afford that.

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Post time 2004-9-18 10:34:46 |Display all floors

It's an excellent example of bias.

If people really paid $35 for Clinton's book in the USA and if the lowest paid employees in China earned $5 an hour, then the $30 gap wouldn't be an exaggeration.  

Clinton's book has never sold for $35, and the lowest paid Chinese workers earn far less than $5 an hour.

There are many people in the USA who earn the minimum wage that may own a Clinton biography.  That's why the book is sold for $21 on internet and $23 in stores.  They could easily have priced it at $40 and sold it for $29, but that would price some people out of the market.

However, a Clinton biography shouldn't sell for less than five times the minimum hourly wage.  And at $5 in China, it's far from that.

The article's point that illegal copies of Clinton's biography are sold in China for astonishingly low prices just isn't true.  They are just a fraction, but the fraction is 25%, not 15%, and even then they're still more costly for Chinese workers to own.
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Post time 2004-9-26 20:03:33 |Display all floors

This is nothing in comparison with the true American media bias

As a Chinese we have so used to the BBC and AMerican media bias, our way of reading BBC and American media is to put a huge QUESTION mark on each of then news, then go back to check China's news sites to find out what's really going on.

Bias is a constant. This is also applied to American media reporting on any other nations not a US ally.

The reality is that as internet and China's rise, it's getting harder and harder for American media, BBC to do so, they have to be very careful.

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Post time 2004-9-28 02:41:36 |Display all floors

unbelievable bull$hit

Shan, you really should become a stand-up comedian.  You'd do well here in the US.  Comedy is all your posts are good for, as they have nothing to do with the truth.  Your last post is about as opposite the truth as anything can be.

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Post time 2004-9-28 19:18:35 |Display all floors

It is unbelievable that every post you gave me had this "bu$hitt" in it.

Congratulations, Rednake! Someday I will let you know what's the real B...t.

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The best way to read international news for me is to read from a few different sources if it's an controversial issue.

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Post time 2004-9-28 19:38:21 |Display all floors

If $10 can buy a bag of rice in US, it can buy 5 bags or more in China

Another rarely exposed US media bias (which might totally unrelated to this thread) is the dollar value differences in China and the US.

When reporting how much a Chinese worker or a peasents make each year, BBC and US medai would say these pooor people lived on only a few hundred dollars a year and so on...American readers have never been told how much goods one can buy with a few hundred dollars in China; they never know how low the government subsidized housing/renting is. Sometime people only pay a few yuan a month, which is about $1 amonth. In the old days, people don't need to worry mediacal fees either. People used to pay 50 Chinese cent to see a doctor which is less than 7 US cents. The living in China is far cheaper than US. The American media would tell the people the "cheap labor", but never tell Americans the "cheap living" when comes to Chinese earning.

There are indeed many poor people in China comparing to US standard, however, it's not like what's been reported... BBC always cheery picking the worst worst examples to show Chinese peasents, then the wealthy city people to show how rich they are without mentioning there are a large number of new cities coming out of the old counties, new factories, and many farmers made lots of money build new houses...

Just too many, no way to describe in one post. People just have to travel to China to see.

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