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Well thank you Mr. Fish.
Not that aid is needed as all the thread is designed to do is seek an examination of all of the existing iterations of the concepts of democracy and get input on which form or combination of forms would be most helpful to the China dynamic.|
You have yet to analyze the forms and come up with an amalgam that could prove useful - that would be helpful. Your addictive fixation on only one aspect - and an aspect that you unknowingly feel is not already being followed because it is not being done in the backward manner of your country's system - is not very helpful at all.
Perhaps as my original post was too lengthy for you - as you have mentioned - just a couple brief sections; cut and pasted here for your pleasure would allow you to focus better.
"There have been and still are so many commenting on democracy as if they understand it. But from their writings it seems they are only repeating the word as a media virus they picked up on and repeat (as a good virus must to propagate) ad infinitum hoping that it will somehow "stick."
There are so many forms of democracy, and derivatives of democracy, being applied around the world that it is incorrect to use the word as a blanket definition from which one could create a mind's image of what the word means.
A government system that contains what can be gleaned as the "good points" from the different forms while excising the "bad points" is what China is trying to create, but with the constant rhetoric that only throws out the "word" as if that is sufficient and that somehow the form they imagine is really what they imagine, the comments by those eager to see their imagined form as the one established in China as "the one" are not all that helpful.
Perhaps an examination of the common existing forms can allow those interested posters that like to do more that simply pontificate, to actually come up with some constructive options would be more helpful."
"No one should pretend that democracy is perfect or all-wise; and any that do, show they misunderstand the nature of politics and the various systems. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time" - this is a quote by the former British prime minister Winston Churchill. Mind you, Winston Churchill also said: "Only animals and Americans stand up to bathe (shower)," so one must take posthumously used, out of context quotes, with a "grain of salt."
"Simply mouthing the "word" as if understanding is useless. Blind and automatic application of a model already showing deep failures is unproductive. Only experimentation and a willingness to experiment is a valid road to a goal of a superior system of government. Only by first acknowledging errors can those errors be addressed so as to be corrected."
"Others do not want to change. They want blind acceptance of failures, and they fear creation of anything new that will be better than what "they" may now have and which may graphically demonstrate those failures. The easiest and only recourse "they" have is constant ridicule, demand a "rush" to accept "their" failures, and then a self-congratulatory pat on the back when those failures are applied elsewhere.
"Those that see themselves as "leaders" need by definition to have others "follow" and the idea that another may be working toward being a "leader" by exposing the failures of a current "leader" always results in the "current leader" degenirating into a posture of force and intimidation - whether in the "animal" kingdom or humankind."
I also note Mr. Fish your use of an odd phrase "erception is Reality." You leave out the most important part of phrase "erception is reality to the one so perceiving." It thus does not make the perception a reality in any sense of the word for anyone other than the one so preceiving - only for the individual. sort of like "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
There are many unmentioned aspects of error in your use of the partial phrase - and they would exist should you even have used the whole idea. The main point is that if one perceives the world as being flat, that neither makes it a reality nor the one with such perception; sane. It only shows the one with such an insane perception as perhaps never either going beyond their own tiny sphere of experience to see whether or not the world truly is flat, or being so blinded by oppressive brainwashing by those wanting the world to be seen as flat - or the earth as the center of the universe - that they are unable to see beyond into the greater reality wherein the truth does reside.
Finally - for this piece - to do what you seldom do, I will answer the questions you again ask and that have been answered numerous times before:
China is already following democratic principles and is refining those priniciples even further so that they are applicable to the China dynamic. The perfection of the system China is developing will happen when it has evolved to the point of perfection as viewed by the people so perfecting the system and not at the dictate or force of any outsiders.
Your final question is written in such a way that it is difficult to answer because as is the point of my original - there are so many different examples of application of democratic concepts that no single one can be termed "Western Democracy" because they all differ so widely.
But it can be safely said that the system that finally evolves in China will, by nature, condition, and proclivity, be more or less similar or different to those systems now existing elsewhere.