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MH 17: Some conclusions - Did NATO try to murder Putin?   [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2014-7-21 15:38:06 |Display all floors
seneca Post time: 2014-7-21 16:12
It is true that the CHINESE media are showing a marked neutrality in this case; ht off to them.  ...
You can't read Russian news,


well, you cant seem to read English news,
you cant seem to understand English - news or otherwise... work on it!

p.s. Just using google translate is not reading or writing a language.
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Post time 2014-7-21 15:44:09 |Display all floors
KIyer Post time: 2014-7-21 15:32
i have seen that anyone who expresses an opinion against the western policies is somehow utimately  ...

So now it is just down to "Might Makes Right."  Whoever has the biggest guns will get their way.  Something for China to think about.

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Post time 2014-7-21 17:09:14 |Display all floors
KIyer Post time: 2014-7-21 09:04
i saw in the news here, despite the massive anti-russian propaganda, reports that the Ukrainian air  ...

Ukrainian airspace below 32000 feet was closed.
The plane was originally at 35,000 feet and ATC asked them to descend to 33,000 feet.
The Buk launcher is capable of hitting planes to 50,000 feet or more.

The 2000 feet difference makes no difference, it would have been to ensure separation from other traffic, happens all the time.
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This post was edited by KIyer at 2014-7-21 19:33
emucentral Post time: 2014-7-21 19:09
Ukrainian airspace below 32000 feet was closed.
The plane was originally at 35,000 feet and ATC as ...
The 2000 feet difference makes no difference, it would have been to ensure separation from other traffic, happens all the time.

but that "happens all the time" over peaceful ground, not over a war zone!!! it is possible to move all the traffic above 35000ft and still achieve separation. one does not ask a plane to descend closer to the danger zone to enhance the chance of getting shot with a clearance of just 1000 ft ! what kind of ATC is that? if they did indeed ask the plane to descend, I would question their motives or sanity.
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Post time 2014-7-21 17:50:08 |Display all floors
pantarhei Post time: 2014-7-20 05:13
The conspiracy nutters are going insane.  The world is coming to grips with reality that the rebels  ...

word, dude.  aint nobody trying to kill putin.  putin is buggin.  

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Post time 2014-7-21 18:45:24 |Display all floors
KIyer Post time: 2014-7-21 19:26
but that "happens all the time" over peaceful ground, not over a war zone!!! it is possible to mov ...

Planes fly over conflict zones all the time, Afghanistan, Iraq etc.
The altitude at which the Ukrainian aircraft were shot down was much lower than 32,000 feet. The Ukrainian civil air authorities had a safety margin already.

The facts are that some fukkwit cowboys got hold of big guns and shot at anything that moved.

They shot down the "wrong" aircraft.
Had it been a properly managed effort it would have been identified as civilian aircraft.

Moscow deserves condemnation for providing these terrorist scum with the SAM system.
The rebel scum need to be shot and Moscow withdraw all support for the terrorist militia.
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Post time 2014-7-21 19:03:25 |Display all floors
Dispersing the media fog: There is only one power on earth who routinely perpetrates  senseless acts of terror: The Illuminati-Jewish  banking cartel that runs Kiev, NATO and the West.

by Henry Makow Ph.D.

False flag:  You commit an atrocity and blame your enemies.  In this case, the Kiev-based junta  shot down the plane and blamed the Donetsk separatists and their Russian backers.

The reaction of the Western mass media is the "tell."  Just as they blamed Osama bin Laden within an half-hour of the 9-11 false flag, the Illuminati Jewish mass media pins the blame on the Russian-backed separatists without any evidence whatever. Echoes of 9-11, they call this shootdown "an act of terror."

You have to ask, "who benefits" from such a crime?  What possible benefit could the Russians or their allies derive from this atrocity?

The Ukrainians on the other hand are backed by the US-based Illuminati Jewish NeoCons who are anxious to increase tensions and provoke war with Russia. Their ultimate goal is to unseat Putin. This heinous crime must be seen in the context of the sinking of the Maine or the Lusitania as an attempted casus belli.  Obama called it a "wakeup call for Europe."   CNN "experts" say the Russians did it; militias don't have the skills. (No proof is necessary, just like Assad's "chemical attack" on his own people. This is what the Illuminati-Jewish-dominated West has descended to: Commit an atrocity and blame the "enemy," i.e. the nation that refuses to surrender.)

false-flag-chalkboard.jpgJust as we never learned what really happened to MH-370, I predict we will never have closure on MH-17 because the Illuminati and their agents never own up to their heinous crimes. Already, the media coverage is mostly about the crash scene when the only question of relevance is, who shot down the plane? I have not heard one suggestion in the mass media that Kiev might have been culpable.
- See more at: http://www.henrymakow.com/#sthash.w9DmYs4x.dpuf
9/11 was an inside job.
No second plane.It was a bomb.Bomb in the other building.
You KNOW without a doubt the videos are fake,right ?!
Planes don't meld into steel and concrete buildings.They crash into them !!!!!!!
It's amazing how the building ate the plane !!!
Imagine those fragile wings cutting slots in massive steel columns !!!!!
How STUPID can they think the people are to believe that crap ??!!

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