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This post was edited by KIyer at 2014-6-3 19:08|
futsanglung Post time: 2014-6-3 15:58
You are barmy. You say fully trained professional make mistakes, well yes they do but if the profe ...
I am still waiting for you to explain the gun deaths in relation to gun ownership when comparing the US to the UK.
you can keep waiting forever if you cannot understand the point i made addressing it. gun ownership is not the relevant measure - social relationships of people is the right measure to correlate with number of killings. Guns are the tools. You might as well correlate number of killings with people wearing shoes and pants as opposed to grass skirts - where people wear grass skirts, the number of shootings is much much less than in countries where people wear pants, ties and coats!!
If you can accept trained professionals making mistakes with good intentions, you might as well accept mistakes made by a well-intentioned samaritan, who has made good faith effort and learned how to use a gun appropriately.
You fail, perhaps deliberately, to see that knowing that a bullet can come from an unexpected direction is a very, very significant deterrent for a baddie. They now have very little to worry about while massacreing..
Also, not all civilians (not military trained and those you seem to think so little of) are trigger happy nutcases who will pull out a gun everytime they see a streetfight or domestic violence. For these, people still have the choice of what they do now, without arms...
It is sad to see some of the best founding principles of the USA gone to dogs -- they were designed to become free and remain free of British tyranny. Looks like the rulers there have now found a backdoor method of achieving what the British were unable to do - have a compliant domestic population that has to scream for nanny everytime someone is killed and unable to be like how they were during independence, two hundred years ago - a brave and proud people atleast within their own domain. Yes, they used guns to massacre the natives and that is the vestige of the British they still seem to carry. But the break from the British tradition of having a defenceless population was one of the bright spots of the USA. It has now been effectively nullified and seems to serve the interest of the rulers, not the ruled. They cannot even save themselves or their near and dear during outright killing sprees...