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Post time 2019-10-6 16:49:24 |Display all floors
jcholsap Post time: 2019-10-5 22:06
My concern is with your meaning of the word "West". Many Chinese nationals have immigrated to the St ...

For a non-Westerner, the term “West” refers to the Imperialist “West” of the last 500 years, which is usually defined as the “Age of Western Imperialism”, and not to the historical “West” which is divided into three distinct eras: Ancient “West” (Greece), Classical “West” (Roman Empire) and Medieval “West” (Catholic Kingdoms). For a non-Western country such as China, the “West” is defined by its leading Western Powers, starting with the Spanish and Portuguese Empires, and later the French and British Empires, and now the USA Empire. What is known as the “Modern West” was created mostly by the French and British, and followed by the Germans, which is now led by the Anglo-Americans. Ironically, the Iberian countries of Spain and Portugal, which were the first Western nations to become the richest and most powerful Western Empires in the world, are now relegated to the margins of world politics and the global economy. The USA, while still arguably the most powerful Western Empire, is no longer the most economically prosperous nor the most culturally sophisticated nor the most technologically advanced country in the world. That title belongs to a group of countries collectively known as the “First World” which comprises Northern Europe and East Asia. That’s why the Anglo-Americans are so insecure with their place in the world history which they overcompensate with vulgar displays of military power, sexual promiscuity, gratuitous racism, conspicuous consumption and materialistic wealth. This is also the main reason why the USA Empire won’t last very long because the Anglo-Americans don’t have much to offer the world, except for selling useless weapons and starting stupid wars, all paid for with the Petrodollar, which also won’t last very long. Once the USA Empire declines and falls, the only remnants that will found in America are the debt-ridden carcass of a cultural wasteland known as the USA, with all its national wealth having been asset-stripped by Capitalist vultures for good. When (not if) that happens, the Imperialist “West” would have ceased to exist. Then and only then can China take its historical place as the world’s richest, largest and most powerful State.

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Post time 2019-10-18 02:56:00 |Display all floors
Exploitation is a cultural infection, not just in America, but all the West. We can see it's roots and development for the past 2000 years. Within Western civilization, we can find counter-cultures, people groups that opposed the exploitation of others. Worth noting is the Anabaptist movement started circa 1600 and still active, though small, today throughout and within Western societies.
     America freed itself from British imperialism in 1776. America's democracy, within the whole of history, is an experiment. But it has evolved into a consumption based political economy that depends on exploitation of global human capital and natural resources.
     A consumption economy is not sustainable. And the mechanisms of consumption are turning on it's own population. It is a known fact that the wealth and health of most American people -- the middle class -- is declining. Meanwhile corporate interests are further corrupting our government.
     When you see a farmer's pigs, do you criticize the animals for being fat and smelly? Most Americans are like pigs. They are stupid and have no idea how they affect the world's people.
     So, "Yes", American culture is in decline and is headed for disaster. America represents the apex of 2000 years of Western exploitation. It must come to an end. British imperialism must also cease. The entire momentum of Western exploitation must stop.
     But I feel it's best for us to be more wary of the "farmers" than to concern ourselves with the "pigs". You can easily change the pigs. But the corporations are very powerful and will find new governments to corrupt and new peoples to exploit. The corporations don't care that America will collapse. By that time they will have moved to another place and will continue their 2000 years of extracting wealth from peoples' lives.
     The western empires from 500 years past have evolved into corporate entities. They are more mobile, more imperceptible, and more pervasive.
     A visiting Chinese scholar once spoke with me about China's population problem. To this day I remember her words, "Be thankful that your country doesn't have this problem." I thought to myself, "With all this open space, could we have such a problem?" Over time I considered it more carefully.
     Be thankful your country is not infected with corporate corruption.

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Post time 2019-10-18 15:08:45 |Display all floors
jcholsap Post time: 2019-10-18 02:56
Exploitation is a cultural infection, not just in America, but all the West. We can see it's roots a ...
Be thankful your country is not infected with corporate corruption.


You have a good point.

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Post time 2019-10-25 05:33:02 |Display all floors
CuriousGeorge Post time: 2019-9-29 03:51
What do Slavery, Colonization, Colonialism, Capitalism, and Imperialism (that The West has practice ...
What do Slavery, Colonization, Colonialism, Capitalism, and Imperialism (that The West has practice now and then), have all in common?

Because all these tremendously benefit The West. For instance, as in any sports and games one plays, if you are ahead of the game, that you found yourself in a much stronger position, and the others are weaker than you are; then what do you do?

Would you play Offensive or Defensive game?

Of course, you play Offensive game. That's exactly The West has been doing, playing Offensive game that benefit them the most out of the rest of the poor world, through 'Slavery, Colonization, Colonialism, Capitalism, and Imperialism', etc.      


             You are on point.

              These things benefit the West in a great deal. That's how they practice and benefit throught out history, and still do

            at the expense of others, which is pretty much the rest of the world.


            Here's just one example, a good forum thread I picked for you,


         Christian Europeans' Original Sin  

        https://blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=734896&fromuid=769836



The world is full of wolves wearing a sheep's mask and playing victims.

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