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Post time 2013-3-14 13:02:12 |Display all floors
China is basically an aristocracy. The parallels with ancient Rome are common. The problems with aristocracies are that they entrench privilege and corruption and often become plutocracies, while not always benefiting merit. In Rome, many rejoiced when the republic became an Empire because it was merit, not wealth or necessarily being part of the aristocracy that led to advancement.

The Chinese system of one party rule is no doubt better for economic growth in the short term. Ruthless pragmatism can never be used in democracies, but as seen in Rome, China and others, it does have benefits. However once people are lifted out of poverty, and all the nasty pragmatic stuff no longer needs to happen, then democracy is certainly the way.

Why you may ask? The reason is what comes with it. With transparency, openess and free flows of ideas and information all make a better world that is more peaceful, and not filled with corruption.

Imagine if the countries of Europe were ruled like China? Would the cooperation after centuries of warfare be possible if governments played to extreme nationalism and 'humiliation'? Would it be good that all Europeans are told only what their governments want them to hear and have censorship so they only hear about how bad the others are?

Of course not. China's system is disasterous for building a peaceful cooperative world because to maintain power, the leaders have to create a 'us vs them' dichotomy. China's economic advantages only stem from the fact that the West is how it is. If the West followed China's path into authoritarianism and aristocracy China would not have the advantage economically and the world would be a much worse place.

It is inevitable that China will follow the West. The question is if there will be a world war beforehand.
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ztoa789 Post time: 2013-3-14 11:28
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My question to you is "Are you a FLG"?
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The Duck is a 'FLG' member? I would have taken a bet that he's a Dharamsala kid. Not that it matters because both, the evil cult and the D.L. clique, have a lot in common. They are brothers in arms, so to speak.

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This post was edited by ztoa789 at 2013-3-14 19:15
LaughsatYou Post time: 2013-3-14 16:29
Total BS and we all know it even if you don't.

I could watch that and detail how it is BS exactly ...
You didn't watch it, did you?

You are even afraid of listening to something you don't like and you try to educate Chinese people?


and You don't believe PBS?

PBS
Park Avenue:
Money, Power & the American Dream

and the following comes from an Oscar winning documentary film.


A major theme is the pressure from the financial industry on the political process to avoid regulation, and the ways that it is exerted. One conflict discussed is the prevalence of the revolving door, whereby financial regulators can be hired within the financial sector upon leaving government and make millions.


So watch it or shut up.

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This post was edited by ztoa789 at 2013-3-14 18:55
LaughsatYou Post time: 2013-3-14 16:38
The wealth gap is larger than China, and the poorest are even poorer. THe facts still don't do you ...
Use fact to prove your idea is better for the lower 99%.

This is Indonesia, not India.

JAKARTA, Jun 29 2012 (IPS) - If in the words of Gandhi ”poverty is the worst form of violence,” then the Indonesian government is accountable to some 120 million citizens who live on less than two dollars a day.
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Living without basic necessities like clean water, proper nutrition, healthcare, education, clothing and shelter, 29-year-old Parwan fits the dictionary definition of absolute poverty. But not that of the Indonesian government, which sets the poverty line at 7,800 rupiah (about 86 U.S. cents) per day – less than half that of the World Bank, which defines poverty in Indonesia as living on less than two dollars a day.
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In the south Jakarta slum of Ciliwung that stretches along a fetid river bank, Parwan survives in a one-room shack shared with his wife and baby girl. He supports his family on a little more than 700,000 rupiah a month (75 dollars) which places him just above the government’s poverty line.
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But he and tens of millions like him – in a country of 240 million which boasts Southeast Asia’s largest and fastest growing economy – are unlikely to get a helping hand from authorities who do not even acknowledge their poverty.
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So it may seem astonishing that not three years later, and just over 12 years since his rule was finally brought down and democracy introduced to Indonesia for the first time since 1955, the government is proposing that the former dictator be declared a "national hero".

Suharto's role in creating rapid economic growth in Indonesia is indisputable. For most of his 30-year rule, our country experienced a significant growth and industrialisation, and there was remarkable progress in people's welfare. Infant mortality declined, public infrastructure was overhauled. Education, health care and living standards improved greatly. Despite the systemic corruption, economic inefficiencies and the hubris of Suharto's children and cronies, POVERTY WAS REDUCED DRAMATICALLY.

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This post was edited by ztoa789 at 2013-3-14 19:19
Prometheus2 Post time: 2013-3-14 13:02
information all make a better world that is more peaceful, and not filled with corruption.

Watch the film.

PBS
Park Avenue:
Money, Power & the American Dream


and explain the example of Indonesia above.

Judge by comparison of  top 1% vs other 99%, not government vs people.


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