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Author: woundedknee    Time: 2013-1-15 17:27:12     Title: Continent of America is NOT a New World!

                                







               The Continent of North & South America is NOT a New World, as Europeans had falsely claimed.


               Indigenous native people of different tribes had been living on it for many many generations.


               Their forebears had persevered through thick and thin on their beloved land.


               [They do not call Europe a new world and claim the ownership of Europe.]










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Author: RottenRobbie    Time: 2013-1-16 12:50:50

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   It is about time that every household in America should [color=#1c7dff !important][backcolor=transparent !important]start paying rent & loyalties to

Native people who had given up way too much and [color=#1c7dff !important][backcolor=transparent !important]receive too little in return for their land and

resources on it , for the past 500 years or so.



The following ABC News was reported on YAHOO on Oct 13, 2011 -

   Little Tashina Iron Horse, is 6 years old, a chatty and vivacious first grader, and she tells us she wants Justin Bieber to be her boyfriend. If she could, she’d ask President Obama for “Fresh water…and bubble gum…and a backpack.” She wants to grow up to be a police officer, a career choice inspired by her mother Bobbie, who works long hours as a security guard.

Tashina lives on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation, where most of the 30,000 to 40,000 residents identify as Oglala Lakota Sioux and boast of a rich cultural [color=#1c7dff !important][backcolor=transparent !important]history and deep-seated spirituality. Located in the southwest corner of South Dakota, Pine Ridge is one of the 565 federally recognized Indian Nations in the United States. It is also one of the poorest.

Pine Ridge residents live amid poverty that rivals that of the third world. Forty-seven percent of the Pine Ridge population lives below the federal poverty level, 65 percent to 80 percent of the adults are unemployed, and rampant alcoholism and an obesity epidemic combine with underfunded schools to make it a rough place to grow up. Tashina lives in government housing in Manderson, 30 minutes north of downtown Pine Ridge. She lives with her grandmother, parents, siblings and uncles – sometimes up to 19 people live in the three-bedroom house, which has seen better days.

In the decades following President John F. Kennedy’s pledge to fund public housing projects on American Indian reservations, a construction boom began in Pine Ridge. Today, most of these units built in the 1970s and 1980s are in varying degrees of disrepair – a result, critics say, of steep cuts to the Housing and Urban Development budget made by President Ronald Reagan in the 1980s. Public housing dollars today are largely spent battling black mold in reservation housing rather than constructing new homes.

Amid the despair, there are youth across the reservation — like Tashina — who are breaking through the hopelessness with huge dreams and powerful stories. So that she can be a competitive dancer at the pow wows, Tashina sports beautifully hand-crafted outfits made by her Uncle Matthew. Matthew is a senior in high school who lovingly hand-sews and beads Tashina’s pow wow regalia: shawls, moccasins, hair pieces, and [color=#1c7dff !important][backcolor=transparent !important]dresses. At the pow wows, Matthew is constantly at Tashina’s side: practicing with her and helping her get into costume.


                                        (Excerpt from BarbarianMo's thread, A man's got to do what a man's got to do)





    More on,  "A man's got to do what a man's got to do"


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Author: RottenRobbie    Time: 2013-1-16 12:51:57

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          Indigenous Native American population  in continent of America 500 yrs ago,
          10 to 15 millions

          European  population in Europe  around that time - 20 millions



          Native population today - 15 to 20 million

          European population today (in New World + Europe) -  a staggering ONE BILLIONS !





Learn more hidden truths below at -


          'Christian Europeans' Original Sin'   

           http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=734896&fromuid=761437



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Author: robert237    Time: 2013-1-16 12:57:02

I very wise comedian, Pat Paulsen, once said:
"All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy
on the part of the American Indian."
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Author: robert237    Time: 2013-1-16 12:58:51

seneca Post time: 2013-1-15 03:58
I hope the Chinese learn that at school. Some of them seem to think that if Columbus had not saved t ...

""Saved the Americas for the Europeans""
So you are in favor of slaughtering a native people as long as those doing the slaughtering are Europeans.
We all knew that already anyway.

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Author: robert237    Time: 2013-1-16 22:43:16

seneca Post time: 2013-1-16 03:46
I am against the death penalty in any case, dour Robber, so it follows that I cannot endorse mass  ...

You're tangled up in your own lies once again.
Author: slimpanda    Time: 2013-1-18 07:37:22

raton Post time: 2013-1-16 16:19
You stupidity and ignorance knows no boundaries, the only achievements Colombo broth to the americ ...


you are very right~
Author: slimpanda    Time: 2013-1-18 07:37:39

robert237 Post time: 2013-1-16 12:58
""Saved the Americas for the Europeans""
So you are in favor of slaughtering a native people as lo ...


agreed~
Author: slimpanda    Time: 2013-1-18 07:38:59

robert237 Post time: 2013-1-16 22:43
You're tangled up in your own lies once again.

hahahaha~
i wonder where he came up those lies from?
either his screwed U.S. planted into his brain...or his parent...or he himself inflicted it into his brain...
Author: 29042012    Time: 2013-1-18 08:23:05

This post was edited by 29042012 at 2013-1-18 08:30

Could we agree to the fact, that moral standards of many centuries ago are not supposed to be the moral standards of today.

This assumption makes it hard to compare events of the past with events taking place today.

This assumption applies for all people of this world, including Chinese people.

So, what the heck you are throwing each other with mud ?

Isn't it the very same mud you are using against each other ?

What a stupid game it is ?
Author: 29042012    Time: 2013-1-18 08:29:30

This post was edited by 29042012 at 2013-1-18 08:31

In all history nations were conquering other nations (China is not an exception). The big ones were eating the small ones.

Today, when a "glimpse" of civilization seems to spread to more and more peoples brains than ever before, hegemonic behaviors are seen as a criminal act (like the South China Sea grabbing by a big fish for example) .
Author: longzhou    Time: 2013-1-18 08:56:37

29042012 Post time: 2013-1-18 08:29
In all history nations were conquering other nations (China is not an exception). The big ones were  ...

Ninth commandment: DO NOT LIE!

P.S.: Rudi, how can you still come here to post after all the lies you have written? How about the MVP poll? How many votes did you cast? at least 3 that I can count!

YOU ARE A LIAR!
Author: robert237    Time: 2013-1-18 11:12:46

seneca Post time: 2013-1-17 02:35
Try to ram a brick wall with your thick skull - maybe that will help you get blood circulating in  ...

You never run out of childish comments..
Author: Prometheus2    Time: 2013-1-18 11:21:05

longzhou Post time: 2013-1-18 08:56
Ninth commandment: DO NOT LIE!

P.S.: Rudi, how can you still come here to post after all the lies ...

How is that a lie? Do you honestly think only white people are capable of Imperialism?
Author: 29042012    Time: 2013-1-18 11:35:52

longzhou Post time: 2013-1-18 08:56
Ninth commandment: DO NOT LIE!

P.S.: Rudi, how can you still come here to post after all the lies ...

MVP votes ?

I am not even on the list - how can I get 3 votes then ?

Besides that I do give a dam   s k i t  about it.

And as prometheus2 said, imperialism has existed all over the globe at any time in history committed by a lot of none-white, or none-Anglo, too.

Any other claim would be a "lie", just to mimic your rhetoric.
Author: longzhou    Time: 2013-1-18 14:21:29

29042012 Post time: 2013-1-18 11:35
MVP votes ?

I am not even on the list - how can I get 3 votes then ?

Nice dribble Mr. Knust, but you know what I am talking about here and the mods know too. You have used, at least, 3 different handles to vote for one of the MVP candidates.......

Again: Ninth commandment, DO NOT LIE!

Are you a true X-tian or just one like those who rape children in the name of their god?

Come clean on this one Rudi Knust.
Author: longzhou    Time: 2013-1-18 14:24:09

Prometheus2 Post time: 2013-1-18 11:21
How is that a lie? Do you honestly think only white people are capable of Imperialism?

You're barking up the wrong tree son! That message is for X-tian german Rudi Knust, aka 29042012, Greedy-Hyena, Hongxie......and at least other 12-15 handles). So far he has used at least 3 of those handles to vote for one of the candidates.

THE MVP POLL IS RIGGED AND THE MODS KNOW!
Author: longzhou    Time: 2013-1-18 14:33:31

seneca Post time: 2013-1-18 14:28
Buon diaz,

your loud prayer may have been heard - by your own kind though you may have wished not ...

Let's put some things clear here.

1) I will congratulate the winner of the MVP, whoever it is.
2) Rudi has, as known so far, at least 3 handles that have voted for you (so be it!)

In all fairness, the mods also know that. Now, it is a bit dissapointing, looking from the CD point of view, that in a more than 2000 member community, only around 70 cast their votes and even more dissapointing that some of those votes have been posted by the same person.

P.S.: Your Spanish sucks. Buenas tardes (Good afternoon here!)
Author: longzhou    Time: 2013-1-18 14:35:22

29042012 Post time: 2013-1-18 11:35
MVP votes ?

I am not even on the list - how can I get 3 votes then ?

Let's see how far you can go with your lies.

Simple question: How many votes have you given in the MVP poll?
Author: longzhou    Time: 2013-1-18 14:36:52

seneca Post time: 2013-1-18 14:34
If you can coldly ignore the blood-curdling, conquering past of the Chinese you cannot pontifivcat ...

"blood-curdling".......that would be what according to you?
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Author: St_George    Time: 2013-1-18 20:10:37

raton Post time: 2013-1-18 17:49
Ok you smart ass, since when have wars, revolution, dictatorships, genocide, civil war etc… been  ...

It would have been interesting to see where we would be now if America had aquiesced after ww2.

Especially as regards Communist expansion.

We'll never know.
Author: raton    Time: 2013-1-18 20:31:21

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Author: myfatherland    Time: 2013-1-19 02:37:09




Woundedknee,

You are so true. These Are Our Ancestral home land that our ancesters forebears have persevered through.......,
and foreigners came and taken away from us, without our permission......, Its just NOT FAIR.



Wake Up Mother China, Wake Up and Rise Up.





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Author: robert237    Time: 2013-1-19 10:24:44

seneca Post time: 2013-1-17 22:30
I am trying my maximum to emulate you ... Indeed, I may succeed occasionally, so much so that even ...

If I appear dumb to you it's because of your thorough brainwashing.
Your cognitive ability has been snuffed.
Author: robert237    Time: 2013-1-19 13:22:31

seneca Post time: 2013-1-18 21:15
Dour Robber,

I don't care one way or another how dumb you are. It is OTHER POSTERS who keep telli ...

Awww... you love capitalism so much. That's cute.
Too bad you never can produce a good argument for this infatuation of yours.
Is it you love to see the rich get richer while the poor continue to starve?
Is that why you're against the one-child policy? You want to see even more starve?
That must be it. You like to see people suffer and starve. We know what you and your buddies are all about.


Author: RottenRobbie    Time: 2013-1-20 20:48:24

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myfatherland Post time: 2013-1-19 02:37
Woundedknee,

You are so true. These Are Our Ancestral home land that our ancesters forebears hav ...


         Trail of Tears             Untold Story of Cherokee Nation
   Cherokees were forced out of Eastern/Atlantic part of U.S.Territories after completion of establishment

of the new colony there. In total less than 5% of Cherokee population survived after repeated clash with

White establishment.

The surviving Cherokees were promised with a land in Oklahama Territories, but not long after they arrived,

that promise too, along with many others before and after this, was broken, and the State was taken away

from Native tribes in Ninteen century.

  Remember, Cherokees, along with other remaining native tribes have been forced to give up  

abundant wealth of their beloved motherland, the vass land and resources ~

[Today, $1.5 billion worth of oil daily flowing out of their land, from Oklahoma Texas to Gulf of Mexico;

yes, thats oil alone] for five centuries and counting, my friend. And yet native people of all tribes in America

do not [color=#1c7dff !important][backcolor=transparent !important]benefit from anything coming out of their lost continent / [color=#1c7dff !important][backcolor=transparent !important]receive next to nothing, and are instead

forced to earn their revenue from setting up casinos and sales of tobacco, two vice businesses that few

want to ever associate with.

(Little known fact: Do you know that U.S receive a staggering 65% of her massive oil needs domestically,

from mainland & Alaska).




Truth Hurts.   

Not many could stand the Truth.   


It takes an Enlightened One to know the Truth.

It takes a Brave and Enlightened One to stand up for the Truth.

                                             
                     
                                                                                                    (quoted from America's Untold Story )







More on -


      "America's Untold Story"


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Author: slimpanda    Time: 2013-1-21 07:10:26

seneca Post time: 2013-1-18 14:34
If you can coldly ignore the blood-curdling, conquering past of the Chinese you cannot pontifivcat ...

that applies to yours as well~

Author: chinsyou    Time: 2013-1-21 14:20:51

myfatherland Post time: 2013-1-19 02:37
Woundedknee,

You are so true. These Are Our Ancestral home land that our ancesters forebears hav ...



      Christian Europe was built upon the two main Christian moral codes -


                       1) Thou shall not kill


                       2) Thou shall not steal





Author: horatiokim    Time: 2013-1-23 17:08:18

This post was edited by horatiokim at 2019-10-11 06:39





From Grim to Sunny Roads


COLONIZING & EXTRACTING WEALTH from the so-called New World (of America continent) immensely enable and lifted off grim and poverty-striken Western Europe into the road of tremendous prosperity, science & technology and population growth, from 16th century on, pretty much to this day.

While Russia too stood to gain similar benefits conquering resource-rich territories eastwards from Siberia all across over to Far-East, and stands as the world's largest land nation today.

All came at the expenses of native folks, the rightful owners of their beloved, yet long lost land!


  The hidden truth that Second Aamendment in good old USA was historically put in place in their Constitution, mainly to encourage slaughtering indigenous Native American people, in order to take over their homeland.



Moreover, the hidden mega genocide of indigenous Native Americans, and their population in continents of America 500 yrs ago was around 15 millions, while European population in Europe was around 20 millions.Today, Native population at 15 million, while European population , in continents of America + Europe, at a staggering 'ONE BILLION'!


For instance, 200 years ago here in USA, around 3 million Germans came, and now there are 65 millions German-Americans; while 150 years ago, around 2 millions Irish came, and now there are 45 million Irish-Americans. While 500 years ago there were estimated 5 to 6 millions indigenous Native Americans in U.S.A, before Christopher Columbus arrived, today there are only around 2 million indigenous Native Americans survived.


Imagine what would it be like today if Native American people had possessed some sort of nuclear weapons to defend themselves? The answer is they would still have their own beloved fatherlands, plus their population comparable to that of European population. I've no doubt about that.


In my humble opinion, it's about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return it to rightful owners Native American people. Remember, notorious global cardinal crimes such as Slavery and Colonialism had long been over, why on earth is this another notorious Colonization still lingering on? [size=1.4]

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Author: GustyWind    Time: 2013-1-24 21:12:23




It indeed is an OLD WORLD, just look at great Mayan civilization.





Author: fatdragon    Time: 2013-1-24 21:28:08

seneca Post time: 2013-1-15 19:58
I hope the Chinese learn that at school. Some of them seem to think that if Columbus had not saved t ...

Actually, the parts of America that he did claim were for Spain rather than Europe. I don't think he kicked out any Chinese immigrants either. But even he wasn't the first European to land on those shores as the Nordic races almost certainly preceeded him, not forgetting the Asians who populated the place in the first place (but I think they would have come from Russia rather than China).
Author: dusty1    Time: 2013-1-24 21:44:38

seneca Post time: 2013-1-15 19:58
I hope the Chinese learn that at school. Some of them seem to think that if Columbus had not saved t ...


Author: youknowhat    Time: 2013-1-24 21:45:29

the british robbed & killed the native indians, spainards, dutch, french & messicans in order to have such a huge land...and that's amerika's today for the lower 48 states (i might have left out somethin here)  {:soso_e114:}{:soso_e113:}
Author: PepeLay    Time: 2013-1-25 12:28:47




That's how  bold shameless {:soso_e113:}  {:soso_e113:} thieves getting richer and bolder, especially there's none to stop them !


[ just like wolf going after sheep afte sheep after more and more sheeps...., ]



First, America continent,


then Australia continent,


New Zealand islands,


now potentially resource-rich Antactica..



  People worldwide have nothing but misery and suffering so far.....,  {:soso_e115:}   {:soso_e115:}   {:soso_e115:}








Author: VonXiLe    Time: 2013-1-27 10:59:25



Natives should start collecting rents from every households over their land. The world is fast catching up with all that ugly stuff, so its matter of times.




Author: CuriousGeorge    Time: 2013-1-30 21:57:14

This post was edited by CuriousGeorge at 2013-1-30 21:59
VonXiLe Post time: 2013-1-27 10:59
Natives should start collecting rents from every households over their land. The world is fast cat ...


I'm just curious how are the Natives supposed to collect rents from those who never paid before?
Just curious!



Author: barbarianmo    Time: 2013-1-31 16:02:28












We must help our cousins Native American people, the rightful owners of the


America Continent, reclaim their long lost beloved father land.




                                             

















Author: chinoamigo    Time: 2013-2-6 01:09:42

This post was edited by chinoamigo at 2017-3-15 07:44
PepeLay Post time: 2013-1-25 12:28
That's how  bold shameless    thieves getting richer and bolder, especi ...
       Move On!


      Just about time to move on ye old goats and old dogs with new tricks, about time so!



Author: PepeLay    Time: 2013-2-17 00:17:33     Title: Pillage and Plunder; centuries-old business as usual !

This post was edited by PepeLay at 2013-2-20 05:16
VonXiLe Post time: 2013-1-27 10:59
Natives should start collecting rents from every households over their land. The world is fast cat ...





While Australia is striking rich again with huge bonanza of about 20 TRILLION DOLLARS worths of

shale oil reserves discovery lately, fellow Anglo brothers are business-as-usual busy helping themselves

on other people's land.


In North America, while original rightful owners Native Americans are still deprived of their rights of their


beloved bountiful motherland for centuries.

The self-proclaimed land owners minority Anglo-elite of USA are pumping out more oil than SaudiArabia;


that's around $2 billions daily, where BP - British Petrolum is a major major player in oil business in North

America.


In next door Canada the bountiful, which is an Anglo majority nation, 30 million population occupying the


second largest land on earth with second largest oil reserve. They are building trans-America oil pipe-line

out to the sea, to channel & export their rich reserves.



                                    After all , it  is  a  family  affair!     {:soso_e113:}      {:soso_e113:}      {:soso_e113:}  







Author: PepeLay    Time: 2013-2-20 05:18:28

PepeLay Post time: 2013-2-17 00:17
While Australia is striking rich again with huge bonanza of about 20 TRILLION DOLLARS worths of ...





              Its All in the Family  ......,       





Author: barbarianmo    Time: 2013-3-3 20:17:55






            'The earth does not belong to man; man belongs to the earth'    ~ Chief Seattle







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Author: slimpanda    Time: 2013-3-5 03:29:45

seneca Post time: 2013-1-15 19:58
I hope the Chinese learn that at school. Some of them seem to think that if Columbus had not saved t ...

HAHAHAHA~
your FAILED diversion~
HAHAHHAHAHA~
Author: slimpanda    Time: 2013-3-5 03:30:09

robert237 Post time: 2013-1-16 12:58
""Saved the Americas for the Europeans""
So you are in favor of slaughtering a native people as lo ...


Author: sobabe    Time: 2013-7-14 05:07:43



'The earth does not belong to man; man belongs to the earth'    ~ Chief Seattle

What the chief meant by saying this message is simple,

      " Do Not Steal Our Land."


Author: sobabe    Time: 2013-10-3 00:39:31

sobabe Post time: 2013-7-14 05:07
'The earth does not belong to man; man belongs to the earth'    ~ Chief Seattle

What the chief  ...


The old man sure do know what he is talking about!

They were all heart broken, and died of broken hearts; may they rest in peace!

Like a bird of Phoenix, may they rise (from ashes)and flourish again on their own beloved long lost
motherland!

                  



Author: sobabe    Time: 2013-10-14 23:08:33

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seneca Post time: 2013-10-3 11:27
He certainly did not mean "Do not steal OUR land", you arachnid!

YOu don't seem to understand Red ...



I read it somewhere that ......,


the hidden mega genocide of indigenous native American population in continents of America 500 yrs ago was around 15 millions, while European population in Europe was around 20 millions. Today, Native population at 15 million, while European population (in continents of America + Europe) at a staggering 'ONE BILLION'!


For instance, 200 years ago in USA, about

3 million Germans came, and now there are 65 millions German-Americans; while 150 years ago, 2 millions Irish came, and now there are 45 million Irish-Americans. While 500 years ago there were estimated 5 to 6 millions Native people in USA, before Christopher Columbus, today there are about 2 million indigenous Native Americans survived.


So what would it be like today if native Americans have possessed some sort of nuclear weapons to defend themselves?


The answer is they would still have their own beloved motherlands, plus their population comparable to that of European population. I've no doubt about that.


Here's the amazing fact: indigenous Native Americans had built such great civilizations as Mayan, Inca and Aztec without outside help, and all from the scratch, and all on their own, since they had been cut off from the rest of the world for ten of thousand of years.


In other words, they actually are great and proud people.


All they need is their beloved motherlands back, the lands that their ancestors had lived through thick and thin, endured through hardships and all.


In my humble opinion, it's about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return it to rightful owners Native American people.

Remember, notorious Slavery as well as Colonialism had long been over, why on earth is this another notorious Colonization still lingering on?


As a matter of fact, China has made no secret that it would one day help liberate continents of America which it sees as rightfully belonging to Indigenous Native people.



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Author: MisterLianghui    Time: 2013-10-16 21:43:16

sobabe Post time: 2013-10-14 23:09
True, my friend, it's also known as Broken Heart Syndrome!

(I supposed no body know what's it's a ...


Too wicked to know what's it's actually feel like until you experience through and suffer one!

The privileged clans live in sheltered lives (having been shield true reality of real world life away from them for most of their lives), so they take things for granted, and think the universe revolves around them. How pathetic, ah ha ha ha!     



Author: MisterLianghui    Time: 2013-10-16 21:43:39


Too wicked to know what's it's actually feel like until you experience through and suffer one!

The privileged clans live in sheltered lives (having been shield true reality of real world life away from them for most of their lives), so they take things for granted, and think the universe revolves around them. How pathetic, ah ha ha ha!     


Author: correction    Time: 2013-10-17 14:57:02

This is a must read book for all.

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Author: correction    Time: 2013-10-17 15:10:07

Who Discovered America?
The Untold History of the Peopling of the Americas
Greatly expanding on his blockbuster 1421, distinguished historian Gavin Menzies uncovers the complete untold history of how mankind came to the Americas—offering new revelations and a radical rethinking of the accepted historical record in Who Discovered America?

The iconoclastic historian’s magnum opus, Who Discovered America? calls into question our understanding of how the American continents were settled, shedding new light on the well-known “discoveries” of European explorers, including Christopher Columbus. In Who Discovered America? he combines meticulous research and an adventurer’s spirit to reveal astounding new evidence of an ancient Asian seagoing tradition—most notably the Chinese—that dates as far back as 130,000 years ago.

Menzies offers a revolutionary new alternative to the “Beringia” theory of how humans crossed a land bridge connecting Asia and North America during the last Ice Age, and provides a wealth of staggering claims, that hold fascinating and astonishing implications for the history of mankind.



Book Description

A groundbreaking new book that upends our understanding of ancient America

Conventional history tells us humans migrated on foot across present-day Alaska, populating the Americas far later than other continents.

However, emerging new evidence suggests seafarers reached the continents thousands of years earlier and developed far more sophisticated civilizations than previously imagined. . . .

From "distinguished historian" (BBC World Service) Gavin Menzies, the author of the blockbuster New York Times bestseller 1421, comes a revolutionary new account of how the first humans came to North and South America. Menzies reveals that ancient peoples used the oceans' natural currents and prevailing winds to make voyages across both the Atlantic and Pacific. What's more, we now must accept that they had time to develop remarkably advanced cultures. Armed with cutting-edge DNA evidence, newly unearthed artifacts, and astonishing linguistic and archaeological discoveries, Menzies shows

humans have been making transoceanic voyages as far back as 100,000 years ago, vastly predating the supposed overland migration to the Americas during the last Ice Age;
the ancient South American civilizations of the Olmec and Maya in Central and South America may have had direct origins and influences from Asia;
ancient maps held in the Library of Congress in Washington, D.C., show there must have been sustained and dedicated voyages to the Western Hemisphere by Chinese explorers as early as 2200 B.C.;
huge Chinese settlements occupied (and made exploratory journeys from) Nova Scotia;
Japanese, Korean, and even earlier European voyages likewise predated the explorations currently recorded by history.
A maverick scholar, Menzies has made a riveting new contribution to the story of humanity's earliest explorers, revealing the truth behind one of history's most fascinating questions: Who discovered America?

Author: correction    Time: 2013-10-17 15:42:49

seneca Post time: 2013-10-17 15:31
You are well-placed to dig into the hotpot of Chinese fairies and tales served up by such "iconocl ...

"ancient Chinese maps held in the Library of Congress in Washington, D.C., show there must have been sustained and dedicated voyages to the Western Hemisphere by Chinese explorers as early as 2200 B.C.; "

These ancient Chinese maps held by Library of Congress in Washington, DC.,
these are not fairy tales.
Author: correction    Time: 2013-10-17 15:48:23

Before the European exploaration started,
America already appeared in ancient Chinese world map.

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Author: correction    Time: 2013-10-17 16:05:23

seneca Post time: 2013-10-17 15:56
So now the CHinese existed as early as "2200 B.C."

AAnd they had boats capable of carrying up  ...

The ancestors of the Chinese are Chinese too.


Author: satsu_jin    Time: 2013-10-17 16:42:32

seneca Post time: 2013-10-17 17:20
The Chinese people were invented ca. 200 B.C. Not 2200 B.C.

Time for you to consult real experts. It can be done anytime and does not cause damage (except sometimes to the ego )
Author: Greenville    Time: 2013-10-17 17:15:09

MisterLianghui Post time: 2013-10-16 21:43
Too wicked to know what's it's actually feel like until you experience through and suffer one!

T ...
The privileged clans live in sheltered lives (having been shield true reality of real world life away from them for most of their lives), so they take things for granted, and think the universe revolves around them. How pathetic, ah ha ha ha!     


I know I feel privilege in Greenville, sucking down all the chicken skin off a wing, even as I type this.
Author: youknowhat    Time: 2013-10-17 20:27:53

not quite exactly new world cos people (asian...chinese from the ice age) already l;ivin there for quite sometime before the europeans reached on shore  {:soso_e113:}{:soso_e128:}{:soso_e114:}
Author: soapdodger    Time: 2013-10-18 14:23:29

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Author: correction    Time: 2013-10-18 14:57:07

A 7-cm diameter plain brass medal with the inscription “Authorized and awarded by XuanDe of Great Ming” was unearthed several hundred miles inland from the American east coast.



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Author: correction    Time: 2013-10-18 15:22:50

Ancient Chinese stone anchors are discovered in waters both in the east & west coast of America,
testifying to the fact that Chinese ships had sailed to America in ancient times long before
European started their maritime exploration to America.
Author: youknowhat    Time: 2013-10-18 20:02:28

seneca Post time: 2013-10-17 22:01
Perhaps China was "rediscovered" by those ex-emigrants who had lived in America for 10'000 years b ...

maybe and back back then only very few groups of civilization...asian was one amongst those groups  
Author: sunshineman    Time: 2013-10-19 09:04:36

MisterLianghui Post time: 2013-10-16 21:43
Too wicked to know what's it's actually feel like until you experience through and suffer one!

The ...
Too wicked to know what's it's actually feel like until you experience through and suffer one!The privileged clans live in sheltered lives (having been shield true reality of real world life away from them for most of their lives), so they take things for granted, and think the universe revolves around them. How pathetic, ah ha ha ha!   


Obviously, they also think the world is all their to pillage and plunder.


Author: robert237    Time: 2013-10-19 09:43:04

soapdodger Post time: 2013-10-17 22:23
"So you are in favor of slaughtering a native people as long as those doing the slaughtering are E ...

You have a real problem with reading don't you.
Nobody could approve of the slaughter of the native Americans except the capitalists that did the deed.
The obviously have no problems killing for profit.
The communist in China were defending their native land.
Did you become so disoriented that you can't remember your way home sometimes?
Have you been to a doctor lately?
Author: youknowhat    Time: 2013-10-19 17:52:01

very fascinating indeed and thank you for sharing just too many books are out there just not sure which ones that i should pick up & start reading  {:soso_e114:}{:soso_e113:}{:soso_e181:}
Author: Billy-bob    Time: 2013-10-19 17:53:51

try Penthouse
Author: robert237    Time: 2013-10-20 01:53:55

seneca Post time: 2013-10-18 19:45
Why don't you ever try to save genuine and real existing aboriginals from being slaughteredby non- ...

Could you be a little more unspecific? You bring up something totally ambiguous except that it
is horrific and done by non-capitalists. When, where, how, and exactly by whom you do not know.
The history of western capitalist imperialist is awash in blood and very specific.
The Vietnam war where over a million people were killed by the capitalists for simply choosing communism
is just one example from dozens to choose from. Just about every nation in the Americas, both North
and South were occupied by capitalist Europeans after subjugating the rightful inhabitants after killing
as many as it took to subdue them.
What do you get out of defending murdering capitalists? Are you hoping for some crumbs from their
blood stained table?
Author: robert237    Time: 2013-10-21 02:41:25

seneca Post time: 2013-10-19 18:30
Don't pretend to know nothing about China's relentless wars against its own people or peoples over ...

Your figures of 30-60 million are vanquished enemies of China, not citizens of China.
Once a person decides to start fighting for his own profit by fighting to hand his homeland over
to an imperialist power on the other side of the world he ceases to be a citizen and then
becomes an enemy of China.
Your indoctrination by the imperialist west always shines through.
Mr. Mao saved China for the Chinese people and western propagandists are never allowed to
forgive him for that.
Author: robert237    Time: 2013-10-21 12:24:31

seneca Post time: 2013-10-20 19:19
The real and honorable Communists should distance themselves from you because you are a disgrace t ...

I'm not surprised that you would describe someone as a monster for stating that China had
and still has a right to defend itself against western imperialism.
Author: robert237    Time: 2013-10-21 13:06:20

seneca Post time: 2013-10-18 19:51
The history of Native American peoples is fascinating as such; I read a book by a U.S. Americanres ...

""Those that returned to East Asia and became Huaxia, were not as smart as those living in the Americas. The Huaxia
soon became expansionist and brutal conquerors. In addition, they developed their culture with the help ofother peoples,
growing rice which was introduced to them by Southeast Asians, learning how to produce bronze, which was taught them
by some unknown visitors, ... ""

{:soso_e113:}

I always knew you were stupid but didn't realize it was this serious.
Poor boy.

Author: robert237    Time: 2013-10-22 08:53:15

seneca Post time: 2013-10-20 23:08
... says your yellowed commie propaganda book written by Chinese peasants-turned-historians.

I know the truth is hard to understand for someone so thoroughly indoctrinated with western propaganda as you.
Author: bravos    Time: 2013-10-22 11:07:54

Compared with Chinese Mainland, it is brand new.
Author: robert237    Time: 2013-10-22 11:11:21

seneca Post time: 2013-10-20 23:00
China does have the right to defend itself against ANY imperialism, dildo; it should defend its pe ...

dildo? That's the only thing your mother taught you to use properly.
First with her, then by yourself.
Author: robert237    Time: 2013-10-22 12:07:41

seneca Post time: 2013-10-21 20:05
Who says commies want to be civilised? They don't! They think civility is "bourgeois".

civilized is the protocol the rich hope their little stooges will adopt so they can be corn holed with no complaints. You're a perfect example.
Author: robert237    Time: 2013-10-22 12:10:16

seneca Post time: 2013-10-21 20:09
I know. I read that in Mao's little red bible.

You just wrote that you never read communist literature less than a week ago.
But we all know you're a liar.
Author: MisterLianghui    Time: 2013-10-29 08:52:47

This post was edited by MisterLianghui at 2019-4-7 02:37
sunshineman Post time: 2013-10-19 09:04
Obviously, they also think the world is all their to pillage and plunder.


  Speaking of Pillage and Plunder,




  These countries in continents of America, mostly invaded and Colonized by Anglo Britain and Spain are more of the same.


  Kill the indigenous natives and


whoever is left, marginalize them and create artificial poverty,


once that poverty becomes crime and drinking,


their media points to the poor and blames them to continue to stigmatize the 'other' community, scumbags, etc!      


  



Author: GustyWind    Time: 2013-11-30 03:41:20     Title: Obama speaks out!

This post was edited by GustyWind at 2019-10-12 03:49



        Slavery, Colonialism and Colonization are all evil things done by evildoers. What do Slavery, Colonization, Colonialism, Capitalism, and Imperialism (that The West has practice now and then), have all in common? Because all these tremendously benefit The West. For instance, as in any sports and games one plays, if you are ahead of the game, that you found yourself in a much stronger position, and the others are weaker than you are; then what do you do? Would you play Offensive or Defensive game? Of course, you play Offensive game. That's exactly The West has been doing, playing Offensive game that benefit them the most out of the rest of the poor world, through 'Slavery, Colonization, Colonialism, Capitalism, and Imperialism', etc.

  Think about this scenario. If Native American people cross the Atlantic, invade and Colonize Europe, and slaughter most Europeans, and put the remaining populations in tiny reservations, for 500 long years. How would Europeans feel about it? Think about it. All they need is their beloved motherlands back, the lands that their ancestors forebears had lived through thick and thin, endured through hardships and all for generations.

  Speaking of genocide, do not forget the little known hidden genocide of indigenous native American population in continents of America 500 yrs ago was around 15 millions, while European population in Europe was around 20 millions. Today, Native population at 15 million, while European population ( in continents of America + Europe) at one Billion. History is written by the victors. Remember the well-known story told was that the indigenous Native people of America continents, who had no prior contact with White Europeans, were wiped out by diseases brought up by European newcomers when they first came over and occupied the land. Here's the analysis. How come another Indigenous African slaves that were brought over from remote West Africa, deepest part of Africa, who also had no prior contact with White Europeans, were not wiped out by diseases? The other story told was 'Cowboys and Indians'. The story goes like that native Indians were slaughtered by Cowboys. But what really happened to indigenous Native Americans, so-called Indians, and the real life story was further from the truth. In reality, they were slaughtered not only by cowboys, but most by settlers, civilian militias, military, and all are backed by general populace, the country and the government, as a whole, since every groups had nothing to lose but more to gain. The plain truth, of course, is that the indigenous native Americans were all slaughtered in order to get their land, plain and simple!   






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Author: GustyWind    Time: 2013-11-30 03:41:52

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"Unless you're Native American, you came from somewhere else".     - Barack Obama, Jan 29, 2013


  It is 'Thanksgiving' holiday season here in U.S., and I thank Native American people for their kindness, warmheartedness &      generosity to us newcomers.

               May they rule their land again!                   {:soso_e167:}


Author: GustyWind    Time: 2013-12-2 01:48:52

seneca Post time: 2013-11-30 10:21
So Chinese are the most foreign aliens in the Americas.


Oh, yeah! He got the b@lls to speak up!                       




Author: GustyWind    Time: 2013-12-2 01:49:19

seneca Post time: 2013-11-30 10:21
So Chinese are the most foreign aliens in the Americas.


Oh, yeah! He got the b@lls to speak up!                  


     



Author: Winston_Pang    Time: 2013-12-2 01:59:47

GustyWind Post time: 2013-11-30 03:41
"Unless you're Native American, you came from somewhere else".     - Barack Obama, Jan 29, 2013

...

So the President of the USA admits that much they are thieves and piranha in a land they call "our country the United States of America".

A shocking admission of theft no?
Author: correction    Time: 2013-12-2 15:00:37

seneca Post time: 2013-11-30 10:21
So Chinese are the most foreign aliens in the Americas.

Since Native Americans are the blood brothers to the Chinese people,
Chinese should therefore be regarded as natives to America too, not foreign aliens like KKK.
Author: correction    Time: 2013-12-2 15:14:49

seneca Post time: 2013-12-2 15:07
You are a racist dreamer. The Native Americans were there before there were Chinese people as we k ...

Does not matter what you call them before Chin Huang Di united the country.

Haven't you heard of the saying - 'Blood is thicker than water' ?
Author: correction    Time: 2013-12-2 15:19:27

Blood is thicker than water

native Americans are blood brothers of the Chinese people

native Americans are long lost brothers of the Chinese people

all you native Americans, my dear long lost brothers !!!!!!

Author: correction    Time: 2013-12-2 15:21:44

seneca Post time: 2013-12-2 15:17
Chinese blood is no different thanany other blood, or are you saying Chinese are not homo sapiens? ...

No, we are not Homo-sexual sapiens like you KKK.
Author: correction    Time: 2013-12-2 15:34:06

seneca Post time: 2013-12-2 15:25
so you are a subhuman species then?Allnormal humanbeings belong to the homo spaiens variety, didn' ...

I said 'we are not homo-sexual sapiens like you KKK'
Author: correction    Time: 2013-12-2 15:58:47

seneca Post time: 2013-12-2 15:53
And I said that obviously you are not intelligent enough to be members of the homo sapiens species ...

The major difference is that we are not homo-sexual {:soso_e119:}sapien like you KKK
Author: correction    Time: 2013-12-2 16:10:40

seneca Post time: 2013-12-2 16:02
No, the major difference is that you belong to a subhuman RACE with a deficient IQ.

I bet you hav ...

No true.
The major difference is that you belong the homo-sexual sapien race but we do not.

Author: correction    Time: 2013-12-2 16:12:23

You belong to homo-sexual sapien race.

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Author: correction    Time: 2013-12-2 16:33:44

seneca Post time: 2013-12-2 16:22
You are an ignorant stalactite.

Only ignorant stalactites argue that homo-sexual sapiens belong t ...

You may deny it
but You really belong to the 'Homo-sexual sapien' race !!!!!

It's all in the news !!!!!

That's why you have Homo-sexual sapien weddings.{:soso_e119:}

Author: correction    Time: 2013-12-2 16:34:53

The major difference is that we are not homo-sexual sapien like you KKK
Author: grb    Time: 2013-12-2 16:39:33

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Author: correction    Time: 2013-12-2 16:45:52

seneca Post time: 2013-12-2 16:43
I know I am often in the news.

But your belief that I belong to the "homo-sexual sapiens race" is ...

No, there are not lies.
I can show all your homo-sexual sapien weddings photos.
Author: correction    Time: 2013-12-2 16:47:26

You belong to homo-sexual sapien race !

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