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Post time 2013-1-17 22:14:57 |Display all floors
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Prometheus2 Post time: 2013-1-17 23:42
China has territorial disputes with almost all her neighbours. China has been aggressive in stating ...

You missed the point as usual.
China has been peacefully assertive on the most part.
The US has been pretending to be the one talking calm, while stirring up trouble.
The USA is not good at keeping the peace, or leading others to it.
It has an agenda of control, not peaceful overture.
It manipulates things for its own benefit, it cares little about Asia except what it can gain.
The USA will do anything to stay number one, ANYTHING.
you may think you live outside the box, but your really just inside another one.

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Post time 2013-1-17 22:27:22 |Display all floors
JFenix Post time: 2013-1-17 21:32
Why always paint China out to be some big victim.

Can't we move past that yet?  Don't you think th ...

Fenix you seem to have conveniently forgotten that Korea was a sovereign nation divided by the beginnings of the Cold War and a paranoid US policy on communism .........

As has been shown by the opened USSR archives, Stalin (Katherine Wheatherby) was only interested in Korea as a buffer. Dulles declared to the world after 1948 that the US had no interest in Korea and it was outside of US defence interests. What is happening today in Asia is an ongoing paranoia against communism which is then followed conveniently by rising China and in the Middle-East terrorism and WMD.

Let's face it the US thrives on paranoia of everything and everyone, and seemingly deliberately divides and rules. The Seneku Island thing with Japan need not even be an issue if the US had consulted all parties, but it seems another convenient excuse to supply another 6 billion dollars in arms sales  .......

But I do not actually totally believe that as I think that bull is fed to everyone to keep your spending high in armaments and a big military   .......  






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Post time 2013-1-17 22:33:02 |Display all floors
expatter Post time: 2013-1-17 22:27
Fenix you seem to have conveniently forgotten that Korea was a sovereign nation divided by the beg ...

That was a long time ago.

We live in much different times now with much different threats.

We share more enemies that are enemies.
  
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Post time 2013-1-17 22:35:46 |Display all floors
Whether you guys like it or not - the US and China have a symbiotic relationship.  Both our economies depends upon the other.

We work together far more than we disagree.

And that is the facts.
  
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Post time 2013-1-17 22:44:36 |Display all floors
JFenix Post time: 2013-1-17 22:33
That was a long time ago.

We live in much different times now with much different threats.

My point is that started then and is ongoing with no peace treaty and more weapons than before.

Japan had no rights the the Ryukuu Islands which were supposed to become independent, and the US never implemented this. Under growing protest about US bases in Okinawa and claims for independence the US gave back the civil administration to Japan, and even though Japan's rights post WWII were zero the Japanese are using old claims for this dispute with China. The US could easily have made a proviso so that this matter did not become what it is now, but instead are supplying more weapons so that it can become a real issue and allowing Japan to expand its military  ........

These problems lie at the heart of the matter and are a very intrinsic part of this dispute  .........

If it was a long time ago it is because it started there  ......   !

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Post time 2013-1-17 22:59:11 |Display all floors
expatter Post time: 2013-1-17 22:44
My point is that started then and is ongoing with no peace treaty and more weapons than before.

J ...

But everything is different today.

Its just not the same context.  We're not 'still doing it'.  Doing what exactly?  Japan and South Korea has greatly benefitted from their relationship with the US.   Japan used to be our enemy.  Not today and not for a long time.  

China is not a threat to us.  Nor are they our enemy.  They are our economic partners.  We are in bed together whether you want to accept that or not.

  
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Post time 2013-1-17 23:10:53 |Display all floors
From what it looks like on my end, the US would love nothing more than for everyone to play nice in the pacific.

Notice how Obama has avoided taking any harsh stances against China over the island disputes.  

Its obvious we are playing on both sides of the fence.  Obama is trying to keep China's neighbors and China happy - playing a balancing act.

I see no indication of a cold war.
     
  
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