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Post time 2012-11-28 10:44:53 |Display all floors
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As cost of living continues to rise, prices of everyday items in Beijing and Shanghai exceed Hong Kong and London





The fast rising cost of living in the mainland's international cities like Beijing and Shanghai is making it increasingly hard for expats to justify the decision to live and work on the mainland.

Perhaps in no area is this more clear than in the soaring price of groceries. In the capital, the prices of most items on the supermarket shelves now far exceed the prices of similar items in Hong Kong and London, which have long been among the world's most costly cities.

Price comparison

A South China Morning Post survey of some commonly bought grocery items found that a 500 gram loaf of bread that sells for HK$8.60 in Hong Kong and the equivalent of HK$9.93 in London, cost the equivalent of HK$13.52 in Beijing.

Similarly, a 250 gram bag of Starbucks coffee beans cost HK$80 in Hong Kong and HK$50 in London, but HK$105 in Beijing. Across the board, imported and foreign brand items were often more expensive in Beijing, although locally produced items, such as eggs, were cheaper.

Similar comparisons contrasting Beijing, Guangzhou, Shanghai and Shenzhen, with those in New York, London and Hong Kong have increasingly become fodder for debate in recent years .

The latest annual cost of living survey by the compensation-consulting firm Mercer found Beijing and Shanghai to be pricier than New York and London. Shanghai was ranked 16th followed by Beijing at 17th, ahead of London (25th) and New York (32nd).

Hong Kong, however, was still pricer, ranking ninth.

Other major Chinese cities were catching up quickly. Shenzhen and Guangzhou were ranked, 30th and 31st, respectively, up 13 and seven places from last year.

A cost of living survey by The Economist Intelligence Unit concurred, placing Beijing and Shanghai ahead of leading world financial centres, like London and New York.

Zuo Xiaolei , chief economist with Galaxy Securities, said that the rising prices of raw materials, logistics and labour costs have contributed to rapid price rises of manufacturing goods. Imported consumer goods are usually more expensive because of tariffs.

However, Zuo said services are still more affordable in mainland cities than elsewhere. "For instance, going to a restaurant in London is more expensive than in Beijing," she said.

Years ago, expats came to China armed with a much higher salary than locals and were able to exploit the benefits of the developing economy's much lower cost of living.

"I remember when a big bowl of noodles was two yuan [HK$2.47] and taxi fares started at five [yuan] here," said one Hong Kong professional who has been working in Beijing since the mid-1990s. That was the time when the Hong Kong dollar was traded higher than the yuan and one US dollar traded for more than eight yuan, he added.

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Post time 2012-11-28 12:49:50 |Display all floors
Yes, after living 15 years in China, I can confirm these fluctuation, but one thing is very important to say:
Such fluctuation seems to be totally uncontrolled in China, unlike Western countries where price increase rarely so fast, I think that there is a good reason: there are these fat pigs that control economy here, who get more anr more fat on the back of chinese consummers.
The high cost of life in West and low cost of life in China is, in fact, a myth: chinese consummers should have some consummer defense associations, but these are not easy to do in chinese system. Any organization that makes statistic studies about price of life in china?

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Post time 2012-11-28 18:57:29 |Display all floors
If you want to buy western high quality products in China, you pay much more than in the west, indeed. But in China, you can buy many products of lower quality with very low prices, which aren't even offered in the west! So although prices for the very same product might be higher in western countries, you still need a higher salary to survive in London than you need to survive in Beijing.

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Post time 2012-11-29 20:48:51 |Display all floors
Yes, generally prices are always rising as well as income, but usually the later edges slower than the former, that's why we have inflation.

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Post time 2012-12-3 11:22:53 |Display all floors
We grow our own vegetables.

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Post time 2012-12-3 14:38:29 |Display all floors
We grow our own vegetables.


That's probably the best way to ditch inflation, food insecurity and ecological problems!

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Post time 2012-12-3 16:42:39 |Display all floors
Kbay Post time: 2012-12-3 14:50
Easier said than done by most people in this part of the world.
Most don't even have the patch to  ...

Yes I agree, that is unfair.

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