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onboard.

What's going on? Typical Chinese Slowness. Chinese are well known to be Slow.

Pretty Shameful if you ask me, 7th Sea Trial for the Varyag carrier to the ocean and yet they were empty onboard, not seeing a single J15 fighter plane make a takeoff once!!


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This post was edited by antimatter at 2012-6-3 05:39

edisonone, you too are pretty slow in motion, except fast with your mouth with chinglish.
Guess, you folks are born that way.

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Go, America...  And finish the job
this time around...  Just don't you dare touch Laos otherwise you have us to answer for
and that means serious business!!!


America's Secret Plan To Nuke Vietnam & Laos                Wednesday, 16 April 2008, 10:34 am
                Column: Richard S. Ehrlich       
America's Secret Plan To Nuke Vietnam &Laos
by Richard S. Ehrlich BANGKOK, Thailand -- The U.S. Air Forcewanted to use "nuclear  weapons" against Vietnam in 1959 and1968, and Laos in 1961, to  obliterate communist guerrillas,according to newly declassified  secret U.S. Air Forcedocuments.
In 1959, U.S. Air Force Chief of Staff Gen.Thomas D. White chose  several targets in northern Vietnam,but other military officials  blocked his demand to nuke theSoutheast Asian nation.
"White wanted to cripple theinsurgents and their supply lines by  attacking selectedtargets in North Vietnam, either with conventional  ornuclear weapons," one declassified Air Force document said. "Although White's paper called for giving the NorthVietnamese a  pre-attack warning, the other chiefs tabledit, possibly due to the  inclusion of nuclear weapons. Sevenmonths later, the proposal was  withdrawn," it said.
The400-page document, titled, "The United States Air Force in Southeast Asia: The War in Northern Laos 1954-1973," waswritten in  1993 by the Center for Air Force History inWashington and  "classified by multiple sources."
        


It wasmade public -- along with several other previously secret, war-era Air Force documents -- on April 9 by the NationalSecurity  Archive in Washington, after extensive Freedom ofInformation Act  litigation.
The Archive is anindependent, non-governmental research  institute in GeorgeWashington University.
Gen. White "asked the Joint Chiefsof Staff for the green light  to send a squadron ofStrategic Air Command (SAC) B-47 jet bombers to  Clark AirBase in the Philippines," to prepare for an assault on nearby Vietnam, the declassified report said.
Gen.White's quest to unleash America's nuclear arsenal may have been inspired by an Air Force study titled, "Atomic Weaponsin  Limited Wars in Southeast Asia," it said.
That study"focused on the use of atomic weapons for 'situation control' in jungles, valley supply routes, karst areas, andmountain  defiles to block enemy movement and to clear awaycover," the  declassified report said in a footnoteelaborating on Gen. White's  strategy.
That terrain formsmuch of northern Vietnam and Laos.  One year later, duringDecember 1960 and January 1961, a Soviet  airlift wassupplying "food, fuel and military hardware" to local pro- Moscow forces in Laos, via Hanoi, the declassified Air Forcedocument  said.
In March 1961, the U.S. Joint Chiefs"countered with a plan  calling for up to 60,000 men,complete with air cover and nuclear  weapons.
"Thisinclusion of nuclear weapons by the military was a legacy of the Korean War. To the chiefs, it was unthinkable for theUnited  States to embark on another conventional,strength-sapping war," the  document said.
In 1968, justbefore their Tet Offensive, communist North  Vietnamesetroops and their southern Viet Cong allies attacked American forces in the center of the country, where the U.S.kept  Vietnam divided.
In response, Gen. WilliamWestmoreland, commander of American  forces in Vietnam,reached for the nuclear button.
"In late January, GeneralWestmoreland had warned that if the  situation near the DMZ[Demilitarized Zone] and at Khe Sanh worsened  drastically,nuclear or chemical weapons might have to be used," said  aseparate 106-page declassified, "top secret" report titled,"The  Air Force in Southeast Asia: Toward a Bombing Halt,1968," written by  the Office of Air Force History in1970.
"This prompted [Air Force Chief of Staff] General[John P.]  McConnell to press, although unsuccessfully, forJCS [Joint Chiefs of  Staff] authority to request PacificCommand to prepare a plan for  using low-yield nuclearweapons to prevent a catastrophic loss of the  [U.S.] MarineBase," it said.
Throughout much of America's failed war,the U.S. relied on  massive aerial bombardments, plusnapalm, in Vietnam, Laos and  Cambodia but did not drop anynuclear bombs, despite the U.S. Air  Force's threeattempts.
After the U.S. lost, communists achieved powerin 1975 in all  three countries.
With hindsight, theauthors of the 1993 declassified Air Force  document said itwould not have been a good idea "to employ nuclear  weaponsto destroy insurgents and their supply sources" in Vietnamor  Laos.
"It is doubtful whether any suitable targetsfor such weapons  existed in the jungles of northern Laos orNorth Vietnam," it said.
"More important, such an attackwould have given the communists a  tremendous propagandavictory and possibly spread the war to China  and thewestern Pacific," it said.
Communist China supported theguerrillas in Vietnam, Laos and  Cambodia against U.S.assaults.
The document's mention of the U.S. spreadingits would-be nuclear  war to "the western Pacific"apparently refers to involving the  Philippines, Taiwan,Japan, South Korea and nearby islands, where the  U.S.enjoyed militaryfacilities.


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antimatter Post time: 2012-6-2 13:38
edisonone, you too are pretty slow in motion, except fast with your mouth with chinglish.
Guess, y ...



Only in Vietnam, did you say???

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Way to go America! And, a great big thumbs up to you!!!




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This post was edited by exportedkiwi at 2012-6-4 03:00

This is going to take time. I guess that first, the PLA-N is testing all systems because if they don't function probably, then the vessel is useless, even when embarking an airwing, so it makes sense really.

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What's the rush, the Chinese ain't planning to invade anybody any sooner?

Everything they do are done at their own chosen leasurely pace.
They don't take no xit from any Yanks or Japs.
Your provoking dipstick churning will have nil effect on their decision or pace, so go and rest your old hot rod, punk.

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exportedkiwi Post time: 2012-6-3 12:00
This is going to take time. I guess that first, the PLA-N is testing all systems because if they don ...

words in the street [chinese media] is that fighters had already and successfully been test flown from the boat... it was performed on the 5th outing... these test runs are so secretive, and i don't know why it is, that we can only make educated guesses at the moment because you can't pinpoint these test runs and peer into what it is doing. these latest outing, as i read, was for the refining of and the incorporation of other new and highly classified technologies to the boat... words via xhinhua last year suggests the boat will be fully commission to the south sea fleet sometimes in 2012. we're only into the early parts of june, 2012.
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