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Marine gets only 3 months in jail for murdering two dozen civilians   [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2012-1-27 22:15:42 |Display all floors
markwu Post time: 2012-1-27 13:55
In dispensing its by now infamous justice system, the US seem to value innocent but foreign civilian ...

Granted it is a combat situation, hostile forces are out there, but these purportedly professional soldiers are trained to make snap decisions whether they are hostiles or civilians and whether to shoot or not. They chose to shoot. They also like to urinate on dead enemy combatants.

Can you imagine the NYPD or LAPD shooting their way into condominiums and apartment blocks, killing innocent bystanders along the way? What sort of an outcry there'd be?

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Post time 2012-1-29 09:02:01 |Display all floors
cestmoi Post time: 2012-1-27 21:15
Granted it is a combat situation, hostile forces are out there, but these purportedly professional ...

Having been to the ghan, and in no way justifying murder etc, the lines are rather blurred bwteen combatant and innocent. I can completely understand how innocents are accidently targetted. No decent troop in his or her right mind would do such a thing and this must be made known so the entire military institution is wrongly blamed and viewed negatively for the actions of a few uneducated and uncouth louts who had no place being there in the first place.

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Post time 2012-1-29 09:23:20 |Display all floors
exportedkiwi Post time: 2012-1-29 09:02
Having been to the ghan, and in no way justifying murder etc, the lines are rather blurred bwteen  ...

What, exactly, are the rules of engagement in Afghanistan?

A combatant is one who bears arms with the intent to shoot and kill you.

A civilian is one who does not bear arm and tries to hide or run away from the shooting, like a mom covering her children from rabid soldiers.

So what are YOUR rules of engagement? Toss a grenade into a house, douse it with a hundred round of 5.56 and 7.62, move in and find... what? Who was in there?

I bet the SWAT teams from NYPD and LAPD can handle it better without slaughtering civilians.
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Post time 2012-1-29 09:44:00 |Display all floors
exportedkiwi Post time: 2012-1-29 09:02
Having been to the ghan, and in no way justifying murder etc, the lines are rather blurred bwteen  ...

Is that such as those who have been collecting body parts from their kills  .........      





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Post time 2012-1-29 09:46:00 |Display all floors
cestmoi Post time: 2012-1-29 08:23
What, exactly, are the rules of engagement in Afghanistan?

A combatant is one who bears arms with ...

Waitaminute! Now you're painting a very jaundiced picture there. There's a SOP for FIBUA and yes, that requires grenades and fairly liberal application of firepower....but it also requires justification for doing so when civilian lives are involved. The "blurred" lines make this rather more difficult as even an AK series weapon can be hidden within the national dress habit. In many many cases our troops have risked their own lives to save moms and kids as well as the elderly....this is the act of a true and honourable troop, not the uneducated ones that are villified in the press these days.
The ROE is specific and is, for the most part, obeyed however, when rounds are popping off all around the place, sometimes ROEs means Reasons Or Excuses.

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Post time 2012-1-29 09:53:34 |Display all floors
expatter Post time: 2012-1-29 08:44
Is that such as those who have been collecting body parts from their kills  .........      

Yes, they'd more than likely be the candidates for doing such things. I disagree with tampering with corpses too. The dead have earned their peace and so should be left in it, intact, no matter which side they're on.

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