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Post time 2011-10-7 12:28:43 |Display all floors
The DL was denied a visa for a visit to S.Africa for the 80th birthday of Desmond Tutu ...........

South Africa gave the impression that the visit would be embarrassing given the political connotations or implications of such a visit ..............

Of course, both Tutu and the DL are very annoyed at not being able to take the opportunity to gain main media attention, and feel that Nobel Laureates should have the right to dictate terms and conditions due to their own prestige  ...........   

Some spokespeople have indicated that the relationship between China and S. Africa is more important to S. Africa than Tutu's birthday party ...........

Perhaps Tutu should have had his birthday in the Ritz Carlton in the US .............

I am sure that the cost would have been minuscule for two such important and beneficent Laureates  ........

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Post time 2011-10-7 20:42:16 |Display all floors
Originally posted by seneca at 2011-10-7 20:36
So Expatter too is missing the fantastic news about a get-together of two of the world's most recognised human consciences... I applaud you, Ex!
Did you also read the shameful denial by the S Af ...
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Thank you for the good news ...........

Umm ........ ?


So what is Tutu biatching about then ...............  ?

Especially as you hold him so esteemed and wise  .............   



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Post time 2011-10-7 21:19:48 |Display all floors

S.Africa would have granted Dalai Lama visa

Wednesday 5 October 2011.


S.Africa would have granted Dalai Lama visa:      report.


South Africa's government would have granted the Dalai Lama a visa to visit the country if he hadn't cancelled his trip, the Deputy President was reported to have said Wednesday.


"Of course, he has been here before, I don't see why it should be an issue at all," Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe told The Star newspaper.


The country denied it was influenced by China over issuing a visa to the Tibetan spiritual leader after Archbishop Desmond Tutu called authorities worse than the apartheid government for dithering on the issue.


"South Africa ... is a sovereign country. We make decisions based on our domestic interest," foreign affairs spokesman Clayson Monyela told Talk Radio 702.


"We are not bullied, we are not pressured, we are not influenced by anybody in making decisions."


The Dalai Lama was due to leave Thursday to attend the 80th birthday celebrations of Tutu, his longtime friend and fellow Nobel Peace laureate, but cancelled the trip on Monday as his visa had not been granted.


Tutu reacted by lambasting President Jacob Zuma's government in a nationally televised news conference, threatening to pray for the downfall of the African National Congress.


"Hey Mr Zuma, you and your government don't represent me. You represent your own interests," said Tutu who invited the Tibetan to give an inaugural peace lecture.


"I am warning you, one day we will start praying for the defeat of the ANC government. You are disgraceful. I want to warn you, you are behaving in a way that is totally at variance with the things for which we stood," he said.


Monyela emphasised that the Dalai Lama was not refused a visa.


"We were still subjecting this application to the application processes when he took the decision to cancel," he said.


"The high commission in New Delhi, India, was actually going to communicate with him yesterday evening or this morning Indian time in terms of the feedback from the application processes."


The visa application process took time because of the logistics involved in such a high-profile visit, Monyela added.


But the daily newspaper Business Day said "no one is fooled" by the official response.


"Is it really in SA's interests to send a message to the world that our principles are up for sale to the highest bidder?" it asked in its editorial.


The Cape Times said the state's "disingenous responses ... serve as the flimsiest of fig leaves: the truth is that it chose not to offend China, which regards the Dalai Lama as an enemy."


"This is beyond just disappointing: it suggests a lack of moral fibre and an ineptness in the foreign policy arena."


The Times warned of "immeasurable" damage to South Africa's reputation.


"How do we begin to negate the perception that our autonomy is being threatened by the relationships we want to foster with trading partners such as China?," it asked.


"Even if the government denies being influenced by China, is there anyone out there who will believe it?"


Meanwhile the country's National Interfaith Council called on the government "not to sacrifice important values that we as South Africans are known for, for international trade," referring to biggest trade partner China.


The University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, where the Dalai Lama would have given a lecture, will stage a protest march on Wednesday over the visa debacle, it said in a statement.

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Post time 2011-10-7 21:26:20 |Display all floors
Originally posted by expatter at 2011-10-7 12:28
The DL was denied a visa for a visit to S.Africa for the 80th birthday of Desmond Tutu ...........

South Africa gave the impression that the visit would be embarrassing given the political conno ...
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DL is treated like rubbish by more and more people.  

He is only liked by other rubbish.

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Post time 2011-10-7 21:26:48 |Display all floors

S.Africa's Tutu marks 80th birthday

Friday 7 October 2011.


South Africa's Desmond Tutu celebrated his 80th birthday in the cathedral where he once rallied against white-minority rule, with feelings still raw over the Dalai Lama's exclusion from the event.


St George's Cathedral, where Tutu served as the Anglican archbishop of Cape Town until 1996, was filled with family and well-wishers from U2 frontman Bono to Graca Machel, the wife of Nelson Mandela.


Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe sat in the front pew across from Tutu's family, but notably absent were President Jacob Zuma and former president Thabo Mbeki.


Both men have fallen under Tutu's scathing criticism -- Mbeki for his years of denying the reality AIDS epidemic; Zuma for corruption scandals that never made it to trial.


Tutu's outrage at Zuma boiled over again this week when the Dalai Lama had to cancel his planned visit for the birthday, saying he had not received a visa in time.


Tutu lambasted Zuma for kowtowing to China, accused him of failing South Africa's democratic ideals, and threatened to pray for his downfall.


"I am warning you that we will pray as we prayed for the downfall of the apartheid government, we will pray for the downfall of a government that misrepresents us," Tutu said on national television Tuesday.


The Dalai Lama, a longtime friend of Tutu's and a fellow Nobel Peace Prize winner, is now set to give a speech Saturday by video link.


The tensions of the week, which have dominated South Africa's front pages, were pushed to the side Friday as the pews of St George's filled and birthday presents piled up at the doors.


"With every year that passes, you seem more ageless or even more youthful," the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams said in a message read out from the altar.


"But this particular anniversary reminds us all how much we owe to your decades of love and service to the reign of God and the family of God's people."


The public service was broadcast on national television. As tributes poured in from the altar, Tutu covered his eyes with a handkerchief, embraced by Leah, his wife of 56 years.


The current archbishop of Cape Town, Thabo Makgoba, praised Tutu's bravery and values.


"Rooted in that belief, rooted in that faith, he went into places many people feared to tread," Makgoba said.


"He really stressed the importance of the dignity of difference."


The service combined the ceremony of the Anglican High Mass, with incense, organs and ritual, but also the laughter and warmth that Tutu is famed for.


After the service, Tutu will join family and close friends for a private picnic.


On Saturday, Tutu's Peace Centre said the Dalai Lama will give a lecture via a live video link from Dharamshala, his home in exile in northern India, after a last-ditch appeal to the government to grant him a visa failed.


"Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu will engage in a moderated discussion on the topic, Peace and Compassion as Catalysts for Change," said Tutu's office.


"This is the topic that His Holiness was to have spoken on had he been allowed to enter South Africa by the authorities. An empty chair on the stage will symbolise His Holiness' enforced absence."


The event will be broadcast live by South Africa's public television network SABC from the University of the Western Cape and live-streamed over the Internet.

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Post time 2011-10-7 21:32:11 |Display all floors
Originally posted by NE_Tigress at 2011-10-7 21:26
DL is treated like rubbish by more and more people.  
He is only liked by other rubbish.
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He certainly does not seem to be much of a success according to his own goals  ............

And never had to do anything to achieve what he does have ..............

And maybe that is what attracts other losers  ................   

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Post time 2011-10-7 21:43:30 |Display all floors
Originally posted by expatter at 2011-10-7 21:32
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And maybe that is what attracts other losers................      
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