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Reply #9 Desaview2's post

Originally posted by Desaview2 on 2010-12-14 14:51

"good morals, good leadership , good head and what is good for the world do not need anyone to deny Nanjing. It just need one to properly assess the causes and effects, to put things in the right context.....unlike a sansukong misquoting all the time......to know what is good and bad........and trying to win a wedge piss prize is a bad thing to do when there are still Monkeys out there who are the true enemy.............  
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This is exactly what I talked about a wolf in disguise

telling the chicken in the coop to trust him!


Originally posted by Desaview2 on 2010-10-23 01:42
what is wrong if they are fooled by me?
did I ask anyone to commit suicide or give me all their money?
so what is all this fool and be fooled stuffs u talk about?
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Let's not forget too.......Always Beware of the "Han Jian" ?


The Enemy Within

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.


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But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
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For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.
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He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.
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.  ~ Cicero Marcus Tullius [/quote]

Originally posted by joeching on 2010-11-6 15:29
sans, dont waste ur breathe.   we r proud to be japanese han jians.

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"A nation with a fading memory cannot have a bright future,"
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said TV play director Yang Yang recently.
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How true!
"A nation with a fading memory cannot have a bright future," ..... It is like a tree without roots!!!


We can forgive but we must never forget!

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Post time 2010-12-15 19:53:28 |Display all floors
Originally posted by sansukong at 2010-12-13 03:10 PM
Denial of Nanjing Massacre unforgivable

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Xinhua News Agency, December 13, 2004)

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china just released a documentary on the massacre of yang fu chen family by chiang kai shek.  just as treacherous as the one in nanking.

i m making a video clip on it.
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Post time 2010-12-15 19:57:39 |Display all floors
Originally posted by sansukong at 2010-12-13 06:50 PM
But according to joeching............
But according to joeching............

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Originally posted by joeching on 2010-12-6 19:36

Western forces went on a killing, looting, and raping rampage against Chinese civilians. All of the foreign troops, except the Japanese, raped women.[184] It was reported that Japanese troops were astonished by the western troops engaging in raping.[185] Thousands of women were raped by the western forces on a massive scale.[186] The Japanese officers had brought along Japanese prostitutes to stop their troops from raping Chinese civilians.



no me, but wikipedia, just like all the stuff on nanking directly from iris chang.  but i v found some new source by my not-so-good friend dr. rhawn joseph, and u ll watch some of his stuff in my new documentary.

NANKING MASSACRE

On December 11, 1936, the Xian Incident happened, in which a gun was put in Chiang Kai-shek's head to stop him from exterminating the Chinese communists and start fight the Japanese, whom Chiang had even gone out of his way, in the past, to persecute any Chinese from even protesting against the Japanese invaders, as Chiang himself was still a undischarged Japanese soldier since his army days in Japan.  In the book, Generalissimo and Madame Chiang Kai Shek: Christian Liberators of China, by Basil Miller, it was described that Chiang absolutely refused to compromise to the demand of the 2 mutineer generals and express fierce anger toward them.  It was until Chiang's wife, Soong Meilin, who showed up with the pro-American, Christian faction under Chiang's government, that they finally persuaded the Christian Young Marshal Chang, one of the two chief mutineers, to let Chiang go, and promise to do what they demand, but only verbally and not on paper.

So, as stated in Iris Chang's book, Rape of Nanking,(page70), ""For decades one of the mysteries of the Rape of Nanking was how, with so many soldiers in place, the city of Nanking fell in just four days, on the evening of December 12,1937(the anniversary of Xian Mutiny).  The troops, after all, possessed enough ammunitions to last through at least five months of siege...""

""Later history based on newer documents suggests a somewhat different picture."" Following are some highlights:

On page 74 of the book, it described: ""At noon on December 11, General Gu Zhutong placed a telephone call to Tang's office(the commander in Nanking).  Orders had come directly from Chiang, Gu informed Tang, for a massive retreat of Tang's forces.""

""Tan expressed shock.  Aside from the fact that he was being asked to abandon his troops, an unattractive alternative for any leader, he had another very real problem -- his troops were at that moment engaged in furious fighting.  He informed Gu that the Japanese had already penetrated the troops' front lines; an orderly retreat was not even a possibility.  It would readily turn into a rout.""(Chiang had intentionally not given the soldiers any communication equipment and Mrs. Chiang Soong Meilin, the Airforce Commander in Chief ,never provided Nanking with any aerial support.)

"" 'I can't worry about that," Gu Zhutong  said.  'Anyhow, you have to retreat by tonight.' "" (as tomorrow is the one year anniversary of the humiliation Chiang suffered at Xian.  Somebody must have wanted the rout, or massacre, to be in process by then.)

""Impossible, Tang said.""... ""That afternoon Tan received a telegram from Chiang confirming the order: "Commander-in-Chief Tang, if you cannot maintain the situation you should take the opportunity to retreat in order to preserve and reorganize [the army] for future counterattack. -- Kai. 11th." Later that day the distressed Tang received a second telegram from Chiang, again urging retreat.""

(the telegrams must be intended as evidence to show that Tang 'retreated from duty'.  But what really happened to Tang will be described later.)

""Unable to hold the line and under pressure, Tang complied.  It was a decision that resulted in one of the worst disasters of Chinese military history.""

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In the book, The Nanjing Massacre, by Honda Katsuichi, in the footnote on page 169, it stated:""In its December 27, 1937, report on Commander Tang Shengzhi's sentence to death by firing squad before a military tribunal after being blamed for having abandoned Nanjing.""

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But in the footnotes on page 184 of Rape of Nanking, it stated: ""Despite his fiasco at Nanking Tang went on to enjoy a charmed existence in China.""...""...after the Communists came to power, the new leadership embraced Tang -- even though he had been a high ranking military official in the enemy camp.  Swiftly Tang rose to prominence, serving as lieutenant government of Hunan and member of the National People's Congress, the National Defense Committee, the Chinese National Party Revolutionary Committee and number of other organizations.  Only after serving an long prestigious career in politics did he finally die on April 6, 1970 -- a revered official in his eighties.""

I got suspicious after hearing the tragic news of Iris Chang's committing suicide.  In one of the 3 notes she left, there was something about "being used by someone... something like the CIA".  I asked her dad about the notes, and he said it's true, but the U.S. government has asked him not to discuss it.

So, now the best thing is for both the Chinese and Japanese government to give us an official statement on what exacty happened in Nanking.
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Post time 2010-12-15 20:00:34 |Display all floors
Originally posted by correction at 2010-12-13 09:54 PM

It's Joe Ching, YOU and Wahahahahaha are all 'hark sum gwai'(black hearted devils) in denying Nanjing Massacre, not sansukong.


thought we v shut ur filthy, lying mouth.

here is the stopper:

LET IT BE AN OPEN-LEG WELCOME!

From Amazon Forum:

James Rooney says
"""So what? You ever read "russian Nights?" You ever hear about Russians, entire battalions tying 12 year old German girls to a bed and one after another raping them, until they died? Why don't you hate the Russians then? It's obvious you have some strange inexplicable complex whereby you hate the Germans, and instead of hating them for various reasons, you attempt to justify your hatred of them by conjuring up this bull. If you're so ignorant as to say "But they raped children," then there is no point in even talking to you, you have no sense of history. Go to another forum, this one is not for you. The Spaniards raped in Westphalia, the Italians raped each other, the French raped in the Rhineland, the Swedes raped in Saxony, the British raped in India and Africa, Mongols raped all across Asia. Wherever men are, and wherever men fight one another there will always be rape, you might as well hate every nation that every existed if you hate the Germans and Japanese for raping children."""

Joe Ching's replyET IT BE AN OPEN-LEG WELCOME!

James, this is a real eye opening.  obvious these are more a tactic of "divide and conquer" by a third party, than the facts. or at least, it's a distraction from the real massive atrocity committed by real war criminals.

after being reminded many a times that "ur mother is gang-raped by the japanese",a friend of mine finally suggested that "we chinese and japanese always welcome each others with open legs."
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Post time 2010-12-15 20:03:48 |Display all floors
Originally posted by correction at 2010-12-13 10:10 PM
Joe, Dizzyview and Wahahahaha are all 'hark sum gwai's (black hearted devils) in denial of Nanjing massacre.



u also need to read this about ur western xtian masters:

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JAPANESE AND WESTERNERS

Atrocities during the Boxer Rebellion has been described by Wikipedia as below.

"""Boxers regularly killed and mutilated foreigners, including women and children, but did not rape them.  The Imperial Army Muslim Kansu braves did not engage in indiscriminate slaughter, only targeting Christian spies near the legations.

Western forces went on a killing, looting, and raping rampage against Chinese civilians. All of the foreign troops, except the Japanese, raped women.[184] It was reported that Japanese troops were astonished by the western troops engaging in raping.[185] Thousands of women were raped by the western forces on a massive scale.[186] The Japanese officers had brought along Japanese prostitutes to stop their troops from raping Chinese civilians. A western Journalist, George Lynch, said "there are things that I must not write, and that may not be printed in England, which would seem to show that this Western civilization of ours is merely a veneer over savagery."[187] All of the nationalities engaged in looting. The Russians and French behavior was particularly appalling. Chinese women and girls committed suicide to avoid being raped. The French commander dismissed the rapes, attributing them to "gallantry of the French soldier".[188] American troops also engaged in looting of shops.[189]

The Russian writer Leo Tolstoy praised the Boxers, and harshly criticized the atrocities done by the Russians and other western troops, and accused them of engaging in slaughter when he heard about the lootings, rapes, and murders, and Tolstoy raged against Christian brutality. He also named the two monarchs most responsible for the atrocities, Nicholas II of Russia and Wilhelm II of Germany.[190][191] Tolstoy also read Confucian works.[192][193]

The New Age magazine accused the westerners of using the war to sustain their opium trade."""
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