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Post time 2010-7-27 02:15:36 |Display all floors
Oil, ad nauseum...

Of course it is in the interest of USofA to mediate on behalf of S.E.Asian countries against China.

S.E.Asian countries like Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan, Indonesia  and the Philippines make territorial claims in South China Sea, where they believe there is oil.

It is a political bonanza for USofA if these S.E.Asian countries were beholden to it for helping them to make their territorial claims and offering them military support in case the anaemic PLA-Navy intervenes. It is much easier for USofA to deal with these small S.E.Asian countries than with China.

China can of course dial up the intensity of guerrilla warfares in these S.E.Asian countries so that any outright annexation will become self-defeating. They are no models of economic and social stability

But yes, absolutely, no two ways about it. PLA-Navy is too weak to make much of a difference.

Blind Freddie could see that coming. Should be interesting.

Si vis pacem, para bellum or as Teddy Roosevelt put it: "Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far".
China Warns U.S. Against Wading Into Islands Dispute
By ANDREW JACOBS
Published: July 26, 2010

BEIJING — The Chinese government reacted angrily on Monday to an announcement by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton that Washington might step into a long-simmering territorial dispute between China and its smaller neighbors in the South China Sea.

Speaking Friday during a forum of Southeast Asian countries in Vietnam, Mrs. Clinton apparently surprised Beijing by saying the United States had a “national interest” in seeking to mediate the dispute, which involves a smattering of 200 islands, islets and coral outcroppings that are claimed by China, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan, Indonesia and the Philippines.
( Cestmoi: Of course it is in the interest of USofA if these S.E.Asian countries are beholden to it for their territorial claims, especially where there is oil. But they should also think about the consequences. USofA is stretched militarily. )

Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi of China warned the United States against wading into the conflict, saying it would increase regional tensions.

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Post time 2010-7-27 13:55:33 |Display all floors
Sometimes I wish China's navy would modernize faster so that China does not get picked on by the United States. If China is the second largest economy in the world, why can't China spend as much as the US on military?

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Post time 2010-7-27 14:30:57 |Display all floors

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gas and oil.
very big deposit, i reckon!
it's the energy that drove USA to be no.1, like coal and the oceans drove UK to be No. 1!

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Post time 2010-7-27 19:07:01 |Display all floors
US Rejects Chinese Claims to Spratly Islands

Clinton Insists US 'National Interest' at Stake
by Jason Ditz, July 23, 2010

The United States has rejected the claims of the Chinese government to territorial control of a number of tiny islands in the South China Sea, with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton insisting the US had a strong “national interest” in ensuring the islands remain open.

Though long of little real value, the islands are said to have a significant oil and natural gas deposit, and the claims over the territorial waters around the islands could be valuable in expanding shipping in the region.

The US declaration comes as Admiral Michael Mullen warned today that China is taking a “more aggressive” stance on the high seas, and that he has gone from being “curious” about Chinese claims to the Spratly Islands to “concerned.”

The comments are a big victory for Vietnam, which has also claimed a number of the unpopulated islands. The Chinese and Vietnamese navies have previously clashed over the claims.

But they aren’t the only two nations claiming some or all of the 100+ islands. Taiwan also claims the entire region for itself, while Malaysia and the Philippines also claim portions of the island chain. Roughly 45 of the islands have tiny military presences of one nation or another, and as their value rises officials warn it could become a source of conflict.
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Post time 2010-7-28 00:17:37 |Display all floors

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Originally posted by greendragon at 2010-7-27 14:30
gas and oil.
very big deposit, i reckon!
it's the energy that drove USA to be no.1, like coal and the oceans drove UK to be No. 1!

TEXAS!

ha ha ha

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Yep.

Actually, USofA is behaving with considerable restrain and circumspection. Under other circumstances, USofA would just annex those territories because they are near Guam. USofA can take a much more aggressive stance, and has the firepower to do so too. See the Caribbean.

USofA is using these S.E.Asian countries as puppets and stooges, Americans can buy them out easily, at the same time using China as the bogeyman. Wonder which of these S.E.Asian countries will bite first.

Not only is the PLA-Navy anaemic, but China is way behind in ways and means to influence people... soft power.   

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Post time 2010-7-28 00:28:18 |Display all floors

USofA Not Picking on China

Originally posted by sky_net at 2010-7-27 13:55
Sometimes I wish China's navy would modernize faster so that China does not get picked on by the United States. If China is the second largest economy in the world, why can't China spend as much as ...



I wouldn't look at it like that.

USofA is looking out for American interests and China is looking out for Chinese interests. These S.E.Asian countries are played for suckers and potentially big time losers. Their best course of action is to negotiate deals with China.

Unfortunately the Gang-of-4 Cultural Revolution set China back a whole generation, along with China the PLA-Navy. Peasant-led revolution was the most formidable weapon the West had against China, it was, ironically, Imperialism's biggest asset. Imagine a modern China without the Cultural Revolution.

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Post time 2010-7-28 01:01:51 |Display all floors

Reply #2 sky_net's post

Sadly, I share your feelings too. China has once again shown to have little foresight in her military planning to develop and expand her armed forces for her own defense. Having the biggest foreign reserves alone does not keep the country safe. China should also have the military muscle to protect her sovereignty and her people. China has a coastline of about 6400 km to protect. Is China's PLA Navies up to do the task? Remember China, "some day in the future", may come too late

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