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Post time 2010-7-20 22:25:24 |Display all floors

Kentucky man pleads guilty to threatening Obama in online poem



LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A Kentucky man pleaded guilty Tuesday to writing and posting on a white supremacist website a poem threatening the assassination of President Barack Obama with a sniper rifle.

Johnny Logan Spencer Jr., 28, of Louisville, entered an open plea — admitting guilt without a deal with prosecutors — in U.S. District Court in Louisville.

Spencer's sentencing is set for Nov. 2. The charge carries a maximum of five years in federal prison, a $250,000 fine and three years of supervised release.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Lettricea Jefferson-Webb said the poem threatened Obama's life and stayed online for at least four months.

"The poem did in fact include a threat against the life of President Obama?” U.S. Magistrate Judge Dave Whalin asked.

"Yes, sir," Spencer responded.

U.S. Secret Service Special Agent Stephan M. Pazenzia said in an affidavit that Spencer wrote and posted the poem, titled "The Sniper," on a page called NewSaxon.org. The site is described as an “Online Community for Whites by Whites.: The poem was first posted in August 2007 and again in 2009 after Obama took office, according to an arrest affidavit.

The poem describes a gunman shooting and killing a “tyrant” later identified as the president, setting off panic in the wake of the fatal shot being fired.

Spencer used the online moniker “Pain1488,” a reference to a phrase used by white nationalists as well as an homage to Adolf Hitler.

The Secret Service became aware of the poem just after the 2008 election that made Obama the first black president in the country’s history. An arrest affidavit says the Secret Service referenced the writing in a report on the white supremacist National Socialist movement. But at the time, the affidavit says, “Spencer was never identified, located, or interviewed.”

Spencer is currently on probation for a state drug conviction in Louisville.

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Post time 2010-7-21 10:56:43 |Display all floors
I'm sure there is more freedom of speech in the US than China but there definitely are limits in the US. You can't make violent threats, especially not toward the President of the US.

I'm personally a little afraid of even saying things on this board. especially in the "Military affairs" section. because the enforcement of terrorism laws here are getting crazy. I don't remember the details but there was a case recently where a group of people gave legal advice to a group in the Middle East that were classified as a terrorist group by the US government. For simply giving legal advice they were charged with aiding terrorists. And you know they are even talking about classifying the flotilla group as a terrorist group.

It seems our freedom of speech is conditional. If there is a perceived threat our freedoms are curtailed.

Somehow the government found out about his Kentucky man. They must have been either monitoring the forum or someone reported his post to the government. The government can go to the administrator of the site and get the poster's IP address. From the IP address they can find out the Internet service provider and account and the address of the person holding the account.

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Post time 2010-7-21 17:09:08 |Display all floors
Originally posted by ilearnabc at 2010-7-20 22:25

Kentucky man pleads guilty to threatening Obama in online poem



LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) — A Kentucky man pleaded guilty Tuesday to writing and posting on a white supremacist website a poem threatening the assassination of President Barack Obama with a sniper rifle. ...


He just expressed his anger and frustration towards his government in a poem, which is just a piece of art works.

Art works might not be true at all.


The freedom in the US is totally an unsavory porkie pies to deceive naive folks.

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Post time 2010-7-21 20:20:46 |Display all floors
theres no freedom of speech in u.s. universities either.

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Post time 2010-7-21 22:19:42 |Display all floors
Interesting how you all would criticize our lack of free speech while all the while demanding we curtail our free speech.

Oh the irony!

It's perfectly fine to issue death threats and plant car bombs to end america's free speech, but you'll defend the 'right' of a terrorist to enjoy that freedom.
Your hypocrisy knows no limits!
  
Behold the turtle. He makes progress only when he sticks his neck out.

                          -  James Bryant Conant

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Post time 2010-7-21 22:34:01 |Display all floors
Originally posted by JFenix at 2010-7-21 22:19
Interesting how you all would criticize our lack of free speech while all the while demanding we curtail our free speech.

Oh the irony!

It's perfectly fine to issue death threats and plant ca ...


Who are genuine terrorists?

Cooked up porkie pies and told the world there's WMDs in Iraq. A group of barefaced robbers intruded into the soil of Iraq people without the mandate of the UN.

Tell us how many people died during 911, and how many Iraqi people died, lost their home, job, family during the terrorist wars against Iraq.

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Post time 2010-7-21 22:35:34 |Display all floors
Originally posted by FLOTELA at 2010-7-21 20:20
theres no freedom of speech in u.s. universities either.

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Thank you for your insight as well as new evidence.

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