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Post time 2010-5-28 15:59:05 |Display all floors
From Spiegel Online

Last year a Berlin court ruled that the 16-year-old Mu slim could pray in a private room at his school. Now a higher Berlin court has overturned that judgement, saying the prayers could disturb school peace.

A Mu slim high school student will no longer be allowed to pray on school property, following a ruling by the higher administrative court of Berlin. The judgement is the latest step on a legal odyssey that began when the 16-year-old was asked to stop praying in the school hallways in 2007. He was the first student in Germany to demand the right to conduct his prayers at school.

In making the judgment the court was overturning an earlier verdict by a lower court, which had allowed the pupil to perform his midday prayers in a private room at his school in Berlin's working-class district of Wedding.

On Thursday, the higher court ruled that one pupil's rights could not be put before the good of the group as a whole. It argued that in a school with students of various religious beliefs, neutrality was required to ensure a proper learning environment.

The conflict began when, in November 2007, the school's headmistress forbade the student from praying in the hallways during intervals between classes. The student objected, saying he had to pray at school because prayer times were pre-prescribed by his religious beliefs. According to the Koran, a Muslim who lives a strictly religious life should pray five times per day: Morning, midday, afternoon, evening and night.

Following an urgent judgment by a lower court issued in March 2008, the school temporarily allowed the student to pray in a private room during school hours, although it would be outside of classes.

Earlier Court Decision Allowed Student to Pray

Then at the end of September 2009, Berlin's administrative court made the arrangement permanent, giving the student permission to pray at school once a day, when not in class. The court ruled that granting a private room was necessary to guarantee the student's right to freedom of religion.

However the Berlin city government's education authority appealed against that judgment, citing the principal of state neutrality when it came to issues of religion. It also argued that, considering the many different religious denominations that students belonged to, the school peace would be disturbed.

On Thursday the higher administrative court upheld those objections. The court ruled that a restriction of religious freedom at school was justified in this case in order to protect other constitutional freedoms: These could include the right to religious freedom of other students, the rights of parents and the need for peace in schools.

"This is a good day for Berlin schools," the school headmistress Brigitte Burchhardt told German news agency, DPA.

This, however, is not the end of the dispute. Thursday's ruling is now likely to be appealed at a higher court, Germany's Federal Administrative Court.

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Post time 2010-5-30 02:10:55 |Display all floors
A bit like China.

The rights of each individual.

Or the rights of the many.


Who is right?      

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Post time 2010-5-30 06:20:59 |Display all floors
The rights of the many of course.  I know a friend who at his shop the mu slims are all allowed to work only a half day on friday so they can go to church and pray.  
You know what that does to moral for the rest of the guys who are stuck there working?  If their religion cannot adapt to the societies they emigrate to.....why leave their home
in the first place???  Why does everyone always make exceptions for them, but no other culture or immigrant group?  No one else gets these special rights.

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Post time 2010-5-30 06:25:31 |Display all floors

Good decision in Germany.

JFenix, yes. Can we remove GOD from the Pledge now?

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Post time 2010-5-30 06:55:11 |Display all floors
Absolutely.  It wasn't even there in the original version.

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Post time 2010-5-30 07:17:08 |Display all floors

Rights of the many ?

Ziofascism grinds us all under it's jackboots.The rights of the Rothschilds are real.Those of lesser beings
are not.Why are orthodox Jews allowed to wear their unsightly clothes and hairstyles and violate the rights
of the many ?

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Post time 2010-5-30 07:31:23 |Display all floors
Originally posted by petera at 2010-5-30 07:17
Ziofascism grinds us all under it's jackboots.The rights of the Rothschilds are real.Those of lesser beings
are not.Why are orthodox Jews allowed to wear their unsightly clothes and hairstyles and ...


How are they violating rights with their dress?  No one is ever forced to wear it.  It doesn't hide identity.
It's not used to oppress women.

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