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Post time 2009-8-24 22:33:07 |Display all floors

Reply #72 satsu_jin's post

The trouble with economic cycles is the ups and down of demand dependent on the economic conditions.

New innovations are developed to solve new crisis, eg. airlines engage AIRCRAFT LEASING COMPANIES, it could conveniently increase or reduce aircraft number in their fleet. I think that's done in the USA and EUROPE, but unsure of it's effectiveness. Besides it's hard to reduce workforce which are commonly UNIONIZED in Europe or USA. The leasing Aircraft company could  sell, redeployed to regions not facing over capacity!

Some financial reserves would help improve survival of many companies.

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Post time 2009-8-24 22:43:35 |Display all floors

Everytime a new crisis occurs, new specification is needed.....

....example low noise engines due to "complaints of pressure groups", more "fuel efficient planes" due to oil crisis, etc. etc.


so, crisis is not necessarily bad as long as long there is safety nets to prevent massive problems!
for China case, is there enough AVIATION KEROSINE to transport the expected 3.6 billion possible airline passengers? (10 million x 365 days)

ha ha ha

so, we definately need high speed train, it uses electricity not aviation kerosine!

(alas we need to find ways to mine coal cleaner, and convert coal to electricity better - solving the city of LINFEN problem....dirtiest city on earth accolade)


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Post time 2009-8-25 16:15:32 |Display all floors
A few updates about planned bullet trains in countries around the world:

Beside the presently operational ( and under construction) bullet train lines in Japan, China, RoK and the EU following countries intend to enter the race:

USA -  U.S. President Barack Obama, seeking both to stimulate the economy and promote his green-tech agenda, recently signed off on an $8 billion package to be used exclusively for developing a high-speed rail system in the U.S.  

In addition, the state of California approved more than $9 billion in spending in 2008 on a proposal to build a high-speed rail link between San Francisco and Los Angeles, a project tentatively slated to begin in 2018. President Obama's scheme specifies nine other corridors in the U.S. as potential high-speed train routes.

Brazil -  intends to build a high speed rail connection between the cities of Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo ahead of the 2014 Soccer World Cup.

Canada -  is serious about a high speed rail connection between Ontario and British Columbia.

Vietnam - announced such a system by 2020 between Hanoi and HCMC and  

In the Middle East, Turkey is ready to launch its own network, as is Morocco.

In short, a global boom is about to take place in high-speed rail. Who is going to capitalize?

The European players have been more active than their Japanese peers. France's Alstom, Germany's Siemens and Canada's Bombardier (acting primarily through a German-based subsidiary) have each developed and implemented major projects around the world.

Alstom, for example, is the world leader in high-speed rail, with 35 percent of the market, and has set up train systems in China, South Korea, Italy and Spain while completely dominating its home market of France. Additional projects include Morocco and Argentina, but the South American plan was frozen by the global credit crunch.

As for the California proposal, it's too early to tell if there is a front-runner for the contract. Computerized mock-ups show three distinct trains are in the running: one extremely similar to the Japanese N700, another similar to Alstom's TGV, and the last appearing to be Siemens's Valeo.

The Brazilian contract is said to be wide open as well, with official bids due in September. A Japanese consortium including representatives from Mitsubishi Heavy, Toshiba and Kawasaki Heavy began lobbying the Brazilian government last year, but it is no surprise that Alstom and Siemens are said to be interested.

In short, there is no lack of competition in the high-speed train industry.

In the end, the technological merits of each train alone probably won't be enough to clear the selection process for the various rail bids pending around the world. Successful political lobbying could have a crucial role to play, along with appeals to the public.


Part of the information was obtained from The Japan Times

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Post time 2009-8-26 11:50:03 |Display all floors

Reply #76 satsu_jin's post

so, we do see the world is "gearing up" to compete when crude oil could be a little bit more expensive due to shortages!


Now, What happened to the YTL INITIATIVE to build that HIGH SPEED rail link from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore!!!!!
That could mean low cost transport and very swift trip between major hub cities!
Saves a lot of fuel.......

This could be also a major industry for CHINA engineering companies to compete with!!!!


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Post time 2009-9-2 10:51:43 |Display all floors

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Post time 2009-9-2 13:15:28 |Display all floors

Reply #78 yiwutranslator's post

I don't know about this 2012 date being played up by the American Regime!


It could be commodities, financial, proxy, surrogate, terror, or maybe a non event!
whatever it is, the nation, empire, club with the most resillient system of organization, with best defenses would be able to withstand the troubles!

we can watch the STEP BY STEP blows by the great powers ringside at China Daily BBS!


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Post time 2009-9-2 19:02:17 |Display all floors
Originally posted by seneca at 2009-9-2 19:40




Here is a negative trend that accompanies high-speed railways: Have you noticed that all major cities are siting new railway terminals way out into the boonies, making trips to or from downtown so time-consuming and costly? Here is an example:

The Hong Kong and Guangzhou authorities are planning to build a new express railline that is slated to do the trip between both cities in 48 minutes, half an hour 'faster' than the present trains.



China probably copied this from Japan. Almost all Shinkansen stations are far outside the city centers where main stations are located. In Japan they call these stations 'new station" such as Shin Osaka Eki - New Osaka Station or Shin Yokohama Eki. People got used to it. Fast connecting trains serve these stations with the traditional main stations.

The reason for this set up is to prevent unnecessary congestion in big cities (because of new construction work) and to prevent noise abatement for residents in urban areas. A good idea in my opinion.

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