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Post time 2009-4-29 09:42:21 |Display all floors
Bern, Christianity is taken as a fashion. No Chinese parent will ever force it to their children. Chinese culture values the freedom of children. This is why Christianity has failed for 2000 years in China. This is why Christianity will continue to fail in China.

You falsely see Christianity are growing. It is only because you are dominated by the will of your church. You are not capable of rational observation.

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Post time 2009-4-29 09:43:06 |Display all floors
Christianity is resented not only in China (including Taiwan), but also in Japan.

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Post time 2009-4-29 12:20:52 |Display all floors
Let's be pragmatic and realistic for a seconde.
Religion is a big and powerful mass manipulation tool.
Not a single war was about religious matter. This is always about territory, control, supply, influence...
If it's hard to find a good reason to send the mass to the slaughter. It is also hard to find an excuse for intolerable attitude in occupied countries.
Religion has always been a perfect tool to eradicate moral guilt or doubts.
But if you observe the world as an atheist, there is not such a big difference between political utopia such as pure communism and Confusianism/Taoism or Christianity and Islam.
Chinese leaders spread the Taoist precept of harmony to keep control. Confusianism is now cheers as great values once again because it is useful to consolidate cohesion.
The main difference between China and the West was about competition. Chinese empire was concidered as the center of the world by its people. It was big enough to avoid expansion and to keep a blind eye on the neighbours. The main work was to make the inside strong and stable.
At the mean time, the small countries of Europe were divided and were suffering perpetual conflicts. So many different powers in such a small place.
In this configuration, it is not surprising to see the conflict moving outside European borders. The European territorial expansion was logical.
But it was certainly not about religion...
When I see Tim and Joe naively using religion to categorize the whole West, I cannot stop thinking that it is just cheap propaganda.
These guys really don't help to bridge China - West cross-cultural differences.

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Post time 2009-4-29 12:40:37 |Display all floors
fredius, the fundamental flaw of your argument is that you imagine an ideal religion that is free from all wrongs.

This approach is wrong.

You must look at religion in its real world contacts. In the real world, religion is the cause of fear and wars. In the real world, Christians are killing Muslims, Christians are torturing Muslims, Christians help Israel to dominate Palestine, plus Muslims suicide bombers, etc.

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Post time 2009-4-29 14:14:32 |Display all floors

Reply #67 fredius's post

These guys don't want to build bridges, they want to be insular and agitate as much hatred as they can. Thier agenda is apparent and isn't working.

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Post time 2009-4-29 21:31:50 |Display all floors
Originally posted by fredius at 2009-4-28 09:12 AM



But what was the actual reason of the rebellion?


it's at the tail of the 1st opium war.  maybe another one-punch, as how the jews started xtianity.

this internal xtian crusade, sandwished between the two opium wars marinated china for the greatest feast on earth for the next 100 years.  the world today is stilling reeling from the storm of barbarism from the xtian west.
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Post time 2009-4-29 21:54:54 |Display all floors
Originally posted by bern2009 at 2009-4-28 01:24 PM

Joe, stop telling this. You know exactly that the Taiping, although using Christian elements, were far away from being Christians. If somebody declares himself Jesus' brother, you can't blame Chr ...



it's a smaller lie than jesus told about his prewed mother and deadbeat dad.  and it, possibly the bloodiest in china's history, was still less than the genocide xtians tried to commit all over the world, aiming at armagaden.

also go check out the shameless lies the xtians are pulling about nanking massacre(2 major movies have just come out).  history recorded that the nanking university students and nanking residents actually protested against the westerner xtians deserting the refugees during the nanking massacre and went about their selfish ways of celebrating thanksgiving and xsmas, but this girl who wrote the regrettable book on nanking rape had to kill herself to tell the world that she was being used(although her dad(thru private conversation with me)ask me not reveal this as instructed by the u.s. government.

look, in 1936, a year before the nanking massacre, nazi germany and japan had signed a treaty to jointly exterminate communists, which the henen troops and their commander, tang, were. but hte main cuprit was china's no.2 xtian liberator and a japanese soldier, chiang kai shek, self-proclaimed heir to the no.1 xtian liberator, sun yat sen.
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