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Post time 2009-3-7 01:13:15 |Display all floors
The International Criminal Court is in no way controlled by the West. Only a little more than a third of the signatories to the Rome Statute (the treaty creating the court) are Western countries and only 6 of the 18 judges are from Western countries.

I think it is great that an arrest order has been issued for Sudan's president. Even though it will create some immediate problems, in the long term it will be a warning to powerful people around the world that they cannot commit crimes against humanity.

With regards to whether Bush and Blair should be indicted as well, I think that would be a good idea. But the problem is that after the invasion of Iraq, the UN Security Council (of which China is a permanent member) approved the presence of American and British soldiers in Iraq. Therefore the legal case for indicting them is not very strong.

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Post time 2009-3-7 08:34:03 |Display all floors

Genocide? What genocide?

Using the genocide charge to militarize Sudan's oil region

Genocide was the preferred theme, and Washington was the orchestra conductor. Curiously, while all observers acknowledge that Darfur has seen a large human displacement and human misery and tens of thousands or even as much as 300,000 deaths in the last several years, only Washington and the NGO's close to it use the charged term "genocide" to describe Darfur. If they are able to get a popular acceptance of the charge genocide, it opens the possibility for drastic "regime change" intervention by NATO and de facto by Washington into Sudan's sovereign affairs.

The genocide theme is being used, with full-scale Hollywood backing from the likes of pop stars like George Clooney, to orchestrate the case for a de facto NATO occupation of the region. So far the Sudan government has vehemently refused, not surprisingly.

The US Government repeatedly uses "genocide" to refer to Darfur. It is the only government to do so. US Assistant Secretary of State Ellen Sauerbrey, head of the Bureau of Population, Refugees and Migration, said during a USINFO online interview last November 17, "The ongoing genocide in Darfur, Sudan — a 'gross violation' of human rights — is among the top international issues of concern to the United States." The Bush administration keeps insisting that genocide has been going on in Darfur since 2003, despite the fact that a five-man panel UN mission led by Italian Judge Antonio Cassese reported in 2004 that genocide had not been committed in Darfur, rather that grave human rights abuses were committed. They called for war crime trials.

The above excerpt comes from this link.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ind ... &articleId=5714


In addition there is the following:


Darfur: THE POLITICS OF NAMING
Mahmood Mamdani: Columbia Professor
18 March 2007

...The UN Commission on Darfur was created in the aftermath of the American verdict (that it was genocide) and in response to American pressure. It was more ambiguous. In September 2004, Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo, then the chairperson of the African Union, visited UN headquarters in New York. Darfur had been the focal point of discussion in the AU. All concerned were alert to the extreme political sensitivity of the issue. At a press conference at the UN on September 23, Obasanjo was asked to pronounce on the violence in Darfur: was it genocide or not? His response was very clear: "Before you can say that this is genocide or ethnic cleansing, we will have to have a definite decision and plan and programme of a government to wipe out a particular group of people, then we will be talking about genocide, ethnic cleansing."

By October, the Security Council had established a commission of inquiry on Darfur and asked it to report in three months on "violations of international humanitarian law and human rights law in Darfur by all parties", and specifically to determine "whether or not acts of genocide have occurred". Among the members of the commission was Dumisa Ntsebeza, former head of the investigative unit of South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

In its report, submitted on January 25 2005, the commission concluded that "the Government of the Sudan has not pursued a policy of genocide … directly or through the militias under its control". But the commission did find that the government's violence was "deliberately and indiscriminately directed against civilians". Indeed, "even where rebels may have been present in villages, the impact of attacks on civilians shows that the use of military force was manifestly disproportionate to any threat posed by the rebels". These acts, the commission concluded, "were conducted on a widespread and systematic basis, and therefore may amount to crimes against humanity" (my emphasis).

At the same time, the commission assigned secondary responsibility to rebel forces — namely, members of the Sudan Liberation Army and the Justice and Equality Movement — which it held "responsible for serious violations of international human rights and humanitarian law which may amount to war crimes" (my emphasis).

The journalist in the US most closely identified with consciousness-raising on Darfur is the New York Times op-ed columnist Nicholas Kristof, often identified as a lone crusader on the issue. To peruse Kristof's Darfur columns over the past three years is to see the reduction of a complex political context to a morality tale unfolding in a world populated by villains and victims who never trade places and so can always and easily be told apart. It is a world where atrocities mount geometrically, the perpetrators so evil and the victims so helpless that the only possibility of relief is a rescue mission from the outside, preferably in the form of a military intervention.

Kristof made six highly publicised trips to Darfur, the first in March 2004 and the sixth two years later. He began by writing of it as a case of "ethnic cleansing": "Sudan's Arab rulers" had "forced 700 000 black African Sudanese to flee their villages" (March 24 2004). Only three days later, he upped the ante: this was no longer ethnic cleansing, but genocide. "Right now," he wrote on March 27, "the government of Sudan is engaged in genocide against three large African tribes in its Darfur region." He continued: "The killings are being orchestrated by the Arab-dominated Sudanese government" and "the victims are non-Arabs: blacks in the Zaghawa, Massalliet and Fur tribes". He estimated the death toll at a thousand a week. Two months later, on May 29, he revised the estimates dramatically upwards, citing predictions from the US Agency for International Development to the effect that "at best, 'only' 100 000 people will die in Darfur this year of malnutrition and disease", but "if things go badly, half a million will die".

The UN commission's report was released on February 25 2005. It confirmed "massive displacement" of persons ("more than a million" internally displaced and "more than 200 000" refugees in Chad) and the destruction of "several hundred" villages and hamlets as "irrefutable facts"; but it gave no confirmed numbers for those killed. Instead, it noted rebel claims that government-allied forces had "allegedly killed over 70 000 persons".

The publication of the commission's report had considerable effect. Internationally, it raised doubts about whether what was going on in Darfur could be termed genocide. Even US officials were unwilling to go along with the high estimates propagated by the broad alliance of organisations that subscribe to the Save Darfur campaign. .."

Genocide? What genocide?

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Post time 2009-3-7 12:24:53 |Display all floors

Hitler reincarnate .

Originally posted by seneca at 2009-3-7 11:23
We in the West do NOT shoot men (nor women); we try to apprehend them, then put them through a tiral where they can defend themelves, then be punished according to law.

That's entirely different to how the man in question is dealing with ordinary civilians.

I tell all of you - Mr Bashir IS a criminal.


I'd never thought that the dictatorship of Hitler and Stalin would still have followers in 2009 !But SS the world war II  reject has proven me wrong .  Read his ramblngs . He declared even at this stage of the proceeding that Bashir is guilty ! What is the show trial and the Kangaroo court for then ? Why don' t the " enlightened " west just hang him by the neck from the nearest lamp post and be done with it ? Is this what you mean by  giving a prisoner a chance to " defend himself " ?  Every day we are presented with examples of the brutal and dictatorial regimes which control the world , and disguised as " democracy " ! Blah and humbug SS .

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Post time 2009-3-7 12:30:35 |Display all floors

ganzhuolin

Originally posted by ganzhuolin at 2009-3-7 08:34
Using the genocide charge to militarize Sudan's oil region

Genocide was the preferred theme, and Washington was the orchestra conductor. Curiously, while all observers acknowledge that Darfur ha ...



The term used to describe what is happening is not the main problem here. You can call it whatever you want: genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing, murder, etc. It doesn't change the substance: thousands of people have been murdered, raped, mutilated in Darfur by Sudan government-sponsored militias.

The articles you posted are interesting, but PLEASE read Nicholas D. Kristof's reportage from Darfur. It is shocking and shows the crimes that are committed every day in that region. It is a witnessed account and counts much more than all the research done by governmental agencies on Darfur:

http://kristof.blogs.nytimes.com

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Post time 2009-3-7 13:31:10 |Display all floors

You must be joking...!

"The term used to describe what is happening is not the main problem here."

Really, you must be joking! And you must be new to the real world on international politics...

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Post time 2009-3-7 14:07:26 |Display all floors
Originally posted by ganzhuolin at 2009-3-7 13:31
"The term used to describe what is happening is not the main problem here."

Really, you must be joking! And you must be new to the real world on international politics...


Politics and diplomacy are very different to real life my friend. The former discuss about terms, the latter sees people getting killed and raped

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Post time 2009-3-7 14:09:02 |Display all floors
Originally posted by mengzhi at 2009-3-7 12:24

Every day we are presented with examples of the brutal and dictatorial regimes which control the world , and disguised as " democracy "



For example...? Let me guess: the US?

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