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Post time 2009-4-22 12:35:58 |Display all floors

Reply #57 chairman's post

what is the basis to reject "Visas for Businessman", can you give me some insights on this policy?

Is this a national security policy issue?


let me look through this thread, or you could highlight the reasons.


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Post time 2009-4-22 12:54:18 |Display all floors

Reply #3 chairman's post

Looks like negotiations of large contracts in China is best done in Hong Kong, Singapore or Taipei.
I am sure in large foreign investments, work permits must be available for those working full time in China.
The foreign businessman, manager or technicians could use "a China City" as base and travel back to his home country for consultation.

There must be loopholes that FOREIGN Businessman can take advantage of?

This is probably the "idea" of the Security bureau.
They probably worry of Amerikan, British spies infiltrating in and out of China, creating new stealth networks.
(of course it will cause trouble to genuine Businessman)

by the way, for a OVERSEA Chinese person, how many months in a year are they allowed into China?


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Post time 2009-4-22 12:59:59 |Display all floors

It's a bamboo curtain policy.

...but why restrict businessman?

Why not China Security Bureau step up survey in the EMBASSIES WORLDWIDE, and create a database of PROMINENT PEOPLE, criminal, people with at least Rmb10 million worth......the government can "copy" Amerikan or British methods of monitoring using THE MEDIA as the consultancy industry.

and using the data base "reevaluate the business visitors"

that way, we can keep out UNDESIREABLEs.


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Post time 2009-4-22 13:03:36 |Display all floors

Example, if China Security Bureau thinks....

...the Baptist are trying to create "social problems".

It can tapped on the database, and reject those "undesireables".

The present condition is probably due to Security Bureau probably feel insecure about their lack of data on incoming regular visitors.
(They probably remember the "Rice Converts" problem, maybe?)


I don't know exact reason, why don't you highlight the "real reasons"


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Post time 2009-4-22 13:05:53 |Display all floors
Originally posted by gdbill at 2009-4-21 10:39


It's really not so simple.

In the category you've highlighted, not only do spouses need to be married at least 5 years, but the expat spouse must have lived in China for 5 continuous years.  They must also have a "stable" residence and employment in addition to passing a rigorous background investigation by the municipal and provincial Public Security Bureau.

Many apply, but few are approved.



I understand that this is not unique to China only. Permanent residency is not given easily in any East Asian country. Thorough background investigations on local and national level are also the norm in Japan and RoK.  After all, these nations are no immigrant nations.

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Post time 2009-4-22 13:23:39 |Display all floors

Reply #63 satsu_jin's post

that's not a problem, China is trying to reduce it's huge population.

Maybe, it's a policy to get the Chinese spouse of the Expat to go home?
I think Japan also have very strict policies on GAIJIN.

Without travel, people outside China won't know the conditions within China, thus the business opportunities.
Without people to people contacts, it's hard to build a new business network.
The new rules means simply "Foreigners should use local contacts to build networks"
- but it makes it more difficult for foreign investors to "sniff out" new business opportunities.


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Post time 2009-4-22 13:36:14 |Display all floors
Originally posted by greendragon at 2009-4-22 14:23



I think Japan also have very strict policies on GAIJIN.


That is what I tried to say in my post #63. They even apply the same law in different ways to locals and foreigners, something I've never heard of in China.

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