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Post time 2009-2-28 00:03:27 |Display all floors
Originally posted by joeching at 2009-2-27 11:34

As Christianity implies life stops at heaven's gate, while Buddhists believe in continuation onto next ones, one detrimental consequence of Christianity in Asia is the decreasing in birthrates in such places as South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hongkong and Singapore.  

What has heaven's gate vs reincarnation to do with decreasing birth rate?

And: The low birth rate in China is state-ordered! Moreover, birth rates are also decreasing naturally among young people in urban China. And most of them are not Christians.
And: Japan is definitely not a Christian country. The number of Christians is very low ther. But the birth rates are still one of the lowest in Asia (and even the world).

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Post time 2009-2-28 15:07:47 |Display all floors
"The North and South was getting on pretty merrily till this jerk came to power in the South."

Do you mean by that its all right for the south to concede endlessly to the north, in the form of aids, economic development etc, without getting anything concrete in return as the previous Roh and Kim2 administrations did?

"A die-hard moneyman"

You re young probably still sponging off your parents.  Come back when you re ready to be in the real world and making the hard stuff so you can maintain a lifestyle which includes mouthing off on the internet.

"To please the Master, he turned his welcoming bare bum pointing to the US direction."

Korea depends on the US for its security.  And this cherished security facilitated the economic expansion the past few decades. Not to say the ROK military are not capable, but they are just like a bunch of misers when it comes to defense matters.  Couldn't even come up with the costs for relocating US bases out of the capital as previously agreed.  Asides from this perspective, whatever do you really mean?

"I blame Lee Myung-Bak for Kim's current tantrum."

You mean Kim Jong il couldn't get away with larceny anymore as during Roh's time and falls back on what he knows best as a privileged spoiled brat in the worker's paradise run by his father like a dynasty.


"A peaceful united Korean is the real long term goal."

Kim il Sung had this dream in 1950 too.  And we all know how the norks went about achieving it.   You probably think the surrenderist attitudes of past administrations, from the 2 Kims to Roh is the way to go to avoid "unnecessary conflicts"

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Post time 2009-2-28 15:35:27 |Display all floors
Originally posted by bern2009 at 2009-2-27 08:03 AM

What has heaven's gate vs reincarnation to do with decreasing birth rate?


i m talking about the asian tradition of generation lineage.  the xtian's persuasion to the chinese(albeit bertran russell, who's even anti-god and all modern chinese revolutionaries, like sun) to stop worshipping ancestor goes counter to asian culture.  once u dont care about ancestors, u dont care about future generations.

asian culture try to tell us life is eternal; but xtianity, only heaven is eternal.
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Post time 2009-2-28 15:40:00 |Display all floors
Originally posted by diaboloist at 2009-2-27 11:07 PM
Not to say the ROK military are not capable, but they are just like a bunch of misers when it comes to defense matters.


r u sure?  the same thing happened with chiang kai shek in china, and the puppet governments in vietnam and now, iraq and afgan.  r u sure they r not thinking about saving up for eventual immigrating to america?
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Post time 2009-2-28 15:48:26 |Display all floors
Originally posted by joeching at 2009-2-28 15:40


r u sure?  the same thing happened with chiang kai shek in china, and the puppet governments in vietnam and now, iraq and afgan.  r u sure they r not thinking about saving up for eventual immig ...


Vietmames ARVNs when they were still around were quite capable in fact downright awesome as some Viet villagers would attest to if they survived a run in.

The KMT however were a joke,  as for the others, only time will tell.  That said, what's your point?

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Post time 2009-2-28 18:49:53 |Display all floors
Originally posted by diaboloist at 2009-2-27 11:48 PM


Vietmames ARVNs when they were still around were quite capable in fact downright awesome as some Viet villagers would attest to if they survived a run in.

The KMT however were a joke,  as fo ...


they all said they are good, and their american masters were better, until they have to pack up and leave when their masters called quit.

my point is: when are we going to wise up to america's monkey business?
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Post time 2009-3-1 02:48:01 |Display all floors
Originally posted by joeching at 2009-2-28 15:35
i m talking about the asian tradition of generation lineage.  the xtian's persuasion to the chinese(albeit bertran russell, who's even anti-god and all modern chinese revolutionaries, like sun) to stop worshipping ancestor goes counter to asian culture.  once u dont care about ancestors, u dont care about future generations.

asian culture try to tell us life is eternal; but xtianity, only heaven is eternal.

1. C.om.munism also tried to destroy the traditional culture. They did it by far better than any Christian teaching could do.
2. I maintain my statement: Japan, Singapore and now also Taiwan are having low birth rates. And Christianity doesn't play a big role there. Concerning South Korea, maybe 1/3 of its population is Christian. This means, a big majority still has other or no beliefs.

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