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9/11 -- Did it happen the way the Anglos said it did?    Close [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2011-12-12 19:29:08 |Display all floors
petera Post time: 2011-12-12 20:48
Point loads

Seats and baggage containers are point loads and do not contribute to the rigidity of t ...

Seats and baggage containers are point loads and do not contribute to the rigidity of the fuselage.
No, they contribute to the kinetic energy contained in the mass of the airliner.

As the buckling progressed these objects would coagulate and increase the load the fuselage could take.
However this would be accompanied by the accordioning of the fuselage,huge tears and the ejection of seats,passengers,baggage containers and other such objects.These would have fallen hundreds of feet along with large wing sections,huge quantities of fuel and the tail on to Liberty Street.
So the contents of the aircraft are going to horizontally decellerate, in 200 or so milliseconds, from 250 metres per second to zero, and start accelerating downwards ?

The speed of an object does not increase it's structural rigidity.
As I said, it increases its kinetic energy.


Birdbrain being a low level propagandist has no knowledge of Newton's third law.The speed of 260 metres per second as I have repeatedly poined out is impossible for any high bypass turbofan driven airliner close to the ground.
You've certainly claimed that, but you've not proven the exact speed, nor that it's actually impossible to achieve the speed nor that the acceleration was not due significantly to the descent of the plane.


The absence of wings,tail sections,passenger corpses strapped to their seats,flaming pools of fuel and innumerable other airliner related objects on Liberty Street is sufficient proof the videos were fake and that there were no planes.
The absence proves that Roadrunner cartoon physics (instant horizontal decelleration followed by sliding down the side of the impacted object) is not plausible.

"他不是救星, 他是一个非常淘气男孩" - Monty Python

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Post time 2011-12-12 19:41:11 |Display all floors
soapdodger Post time: 2011-12-12 19:20
"I am as far as I know the only individual on the planet to have applied this formula [coke can ph ...

Physics

Do structural principles that apply to beverage cans not apply to B767 fuselages and other cylindrical thin shells,my learned friend ? May we have your own differential equations or manifold theory to explain why these objects behave differently under axial loads ? And proof that a 1 mm alclad shell can pierce heavy steel columns suffering no damage in the process ?
9/11 was an inside job.
No second plane.It was a bomb.Bomb in the other building.
You KNOW without a doubt the videos are fake,right ?!
Planes don't meld into steel and concrete buildings.They crash into them !!!!!!!
It's amazing how the building ate the plane !!!
Imagine those fragile wings cutting slots in massive steel columns !!!!!
How STUPID can they think the people are to believe that crap ??!!

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Post time 2011-12-12 19:53:18 |Display all floors
alicebrooke Post time: 2011-12-12 19:20
Is this the longest thread on this forum? I can`t believe that you guys are still hammering out this ...

Rare

9/11 was one of those rare events that enable the average citizen to determine with certainty that the New World Order does lie.This was a lie of unprecedented size and brazenness.They have managed to convince large segments of the world's population that box cutter waving wimps hijacked four airliners on one morning,flew them unmolested through the most heavily defended airspace in the world and through massive steel towers.Towers which swallowed the planes in single gulps and then turned into sub micron pyroclastic flows.

Continually embarrassing the monstrously evil bastards that have seized our planet is a worthwhile endeavour and one I hope to keep going for a while.
9/11 was an inside job.
No second plane.It was a bomb.Bomb in the other building.
You KNOW without a doubt the videos are fake,right ?!
Planes don't meld into steel and concrete buildings.They crash into them !!!!!!!
It's amazing how the building ate the plane !!!
Imagine those fragile wings cutting slots in massive steel columns !!!!!
How STUPID can they think the people are to believe that crap ??!!

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Post time 2011-12-12 19:54:31 |Display all floors
petera Post time: 2011-12-12 21:41
Physics

Do structural principles that apply to beverage cans not apply to B767 fuselages and othe ...

"Do structural principles that apply to beverage cans not apply to B767 fuselages and other cylindrical thin shells,my learned friend ? "

Does inertia not apply to airliners hitting buildings at high speed ?


Please will you do the test with a coke can hitting thin sheet steel scaled proportionally from the 6 to 10 mm thick steel external wall columns to match the 1mm alclad scaling to the thickness of coke cans.

Let us know how you go with that.


Here's another test for you.

Get one soft lead bullet, push it against some 5 mm thick mild steel plate.

Now fire a soft lead bullet at the same 5mm thick mild steel plate.

Compare.
"他不是救星, 他是一个非常淘气男孩" - Monty Python

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Post time 2011-12-12 20:02:09 |Display all floors
emucentral Post time: 2011-12-12 19:29
Seats and baggage containers are point loads and do not contribute to the rigidity of the fuselage ...

July 28,1945

Lots of wreckage fell on to 33rd street when the B25 hit the ESB.Fuel,wings,undercarriage parts.At least one taxi was hit by a flaming object.Shop windows were smashed by wing flaps and other aircraft parts which were flung long distances in all directions.
9/11 was an inside job.
No second plane.It was a bomb.Bomb in the other building.
You KNOW without a doubt the videos are fake,right ?!
Planes don't meld into steel and concrete buildings.They crash into them !!!!!!!
It's amazing how the building ate the plane !!!
Imagine those fragile wings cutting slots in massive steel columns !!!!!
How STUPID can they think the people are to believe that crap ??!!

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Post time 2011-12-12 20:06:57 |Display all floors
petera Post time: 2011-12-12 22:02
July 28,1945

Lots of wreckage fell on to 33rd street when the B25 hit the ESB.Fuel,wings,undercar ...

"Lots of wreckage fell on to 33rd street when the B25 hit the ESB.Fuel,wings,undercarriage parts.At least one taxi was hit by a flaming object.Shop windows were smashed by wing flaps and other aircraft parts which were flung long distances in all directions."

Apples and oranges, fukkwit.

Speed, mass, inertia, building construction, Roadrunner Cartoon physics were still 4 years away from being animated......
"他不是救星, 他是一个非常淘气男孩" - Monty Python

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