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Post time 2009-1-13 15:43:30 |Display all floors
31. What did Mao say about US after the Korean war?
"American imperialists are very arrogant, they are very unreasonable whenever they can get away with it, if they became a little bit reasonable, it was because they had no other choice."

32. Did US consider the use the A-Bomb in Korea?
US generals actively considered the use of Atomic Bombs from the very beginning, even before China intervened. US presidents considered the use of the A-Bombs after PVA entered.

[From Blair]

On June 1950, Eisenhower met with Collins, Haislip, Ridgway, Ike suggested use of two atomic bombs in the Korea area.

In July 1950, MacArthur suggested plan to use atomic bombs to 'isolate the battle fields".

[From Hastings]

On November 30 1950, President Truman said in a press conference: "There had always been active consideration of its[Atomic Bomb's] use...".

On December 24 1950, MacArthur submitted a list of 'retaliation targets' in China and North Korea, requiring 26 atomic bombs.

In January 1953, US tested its first tactical nuclear weapon, and the JCS considered its use "against military targets affecting operations in Korea."

In February 1953, in a NSC meeting, President Eisenhower suggested the Kaesong area of North Korea as an appropriate demonstration ground for a tactical nuclear bomb--it "provided a good target for this type of weapon".

On May 19 1953, the Joint Chiefs recommended direct air and naval operations against China, including the use of nuclear weapons. The National Security Council endorsed the JCS recommendation the next day.

Dulles, the Secretary of State was visiting India and told Nehru to deliver a message to Zhou Enlai: if peace was not speedily attained, the United States would begin to bomb north of Yalu, and US had recently tested atomic shells.
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Post time 2009-1-13 15:44:20 |Display all floors
33. As a side question, did US threaten China with nukes after the Korean war?
Yes.

US threatened China with nuclear weapons again in 1959.
From recently declassified documents, President Kennedy considered using nukes to bomb Chinese nuclear facilities in early 1960s , when China was on the verge of exploding its own bomb, but JFK was assassinated and the plan was dropped by President Johnson.

Facing nuclear threat, Chairman Mao said:"we need to have some atomic bombs too". In 1964, China exploded its first A-Bomb, 30 months later, in 1967, it exploded its first H-Bomb, since then, China has developed a variety of strategic and tactical weapons, China also produced missiles of various ranges, initially targeting US bases at Japan and Philippines, and eventually the North America continent. Mao also said:"We must have nuclear submarines even if this would take us ten thousand years". China tested its nuclear subs in early 1970s and tested SLBMs later. The exact size of PLA nuclear stockpile is unknown, but reasonable estimate put it in the range of 2000-4000 warheads.

In March 1996, PLA conducted an exercise in the Taiwan Straits, President Clinton sent two carriers to the straits, PLA responded by dispatching its nuclear attack submarines and the US fleet stayed 300 nautical miles off Taiwan, in the meantime, PLA SAF (Secondary Artillery Force) conducted exercise to retaliate against enemy strategic strikes, PLA Vice Chief of Staff,  Gen. Xiong Guangkai reportedly hinted that US cares more about LA than Taiwan.

34. How many civilians were killed by US forces in Korea?
About 3 million. (To be detailed)

35. What was the lesson China learned from the Korean war?
Chinese learned that united as a nation, they can defeat any enemy.
  

36. What is the future outlook of Sino-US relations?
China and US historically had fewer and less severe conflicts during the humiliating 100 year Chinese history since the Opium war. Chinese and Americans need not and should not be enemies, they should cooperate with each other to build a world of peace and prosperity.
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Post time 2009-1-13 15:59:08 |Display all floors
Originally posted by HeavenSent at 2009-1-13 15:32
Since mechanized UN forces retreated very fast, the main PVA forces stopped pursuit, only a small PVA force followed the fleeing UN troops. PVA recovered North Korea capital Pyongyang.

Fully mechanized forces were not the norm until the Vietnam erra, and even there because of terrain many troops walked.  For instance in WWII only the UK had a fully mechanized force.  That was until the germans surrounded them in northern france and they left all their trucks on the beach.

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Post time 2009-1-13 16:09:21 |Display all floors
looks like NO laowais dare accept heaven's will

except one IDIOT
What's on your mind now........ooooooooooooooo la la....Kind Regards

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Post time 2009-1-13 16:15:03 |Display all floors
Originally posted by HeavenSent at 2009-1-13 15:41
29. Why were so many Chinese POWs repatriated to KMT regime in Taiwan?
From MacDonald:

"In the Chinese camps, the leaders were ex-Guomindong [Kuo-Min-Tang, KMT] soldiers drafted into the P ...


Repatriation of POWs was hindered by North Korea not repatriating South Korean soldiers.  They claimed that the capitalists had brainwashed them in much the same was as the UN forces claimed that the Communists brainwashed their soldiers.  Both sides calling the other foul.

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Post time 2009-1-13 16:19:10 |Display all floors
Originally posted by caringhk at 2009-1-13 16:09
looks like NO laowais dare accept heaven's will

except one IDIOT

:lol
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Post time 2009-1-13 16:34:03 |Display all floors
Originally posted by caringhk at 2009-1-13 16:09
looks like NO laowais dare accept heaven's will

except one IDIOT


He is not making any outlandish claims.  A story of events basically congruent to what he said is in most history books in the west.

Now if he starts reading Joeching's posts then you would think that the RoK was is and will forever be a US puppet regime and that the Amerikans started the war by invading north korea and then Ch!na and that the good communists were just defending themselves and that no Ch!nese died in the war, because according to Joeching amerikan bullets cant hurt Asians.


But no heaven's post misses some details or perhaps exaggerates some things, its a point of view on history.  Not a totally different universe.

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