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Debunking Columbus and Da Vinci -- Gavin Menzies   [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2008-7-31 18:07:21 |Display all floors
What is well-known and beyond doubt is that there was substantial European contact with China for centuries, and that many European "inventions" like the printing press are derived from earlier Asian developments.

So, it makes logical sense for the European Renaissance to be triggered by a visit by a Chinese navy to Italy with gifts of maps, machines, weapons, and so on.

There are numerous intriguing maps like the Piri Reis which show more knowledge of the world than Europeans are thought to have possessed at the time they were drawn.

There are numerous references by Europeans to travelers from the East who brought knowledge and gifts over many centuries.

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Post time 2008-7-31 18:57:58 |Display all floors
Originally posted by caringhk at 2008-7-31 19:41
facts u don't know

that kiwi fruits are originally from China


Actually, we've known for ages that the other name is "Chinese Gooseberry", like Aubergine/Eggplant has different names.

The reason why the Kiwis have made a success out of Kiwifruit is because the "Chinese gooseberries" were becoming embarrassed about the "Chinese goose" giving them a bad name, CaringHK !
"他不是救星, 他是一个非常淘气男孩" - Monty Python

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Post time 2008-7-31 19:40:18 |Display all floors
Originally posted by iamnaive at 2008-7-31 18:42
And you are seriously telling the folks here, that the free spirit of the   E u r o p e a n     R e n a i s s a n c e   had originated in China ?



Well, the comparisons between the inventions of Leonardo da Vinci, di Giorgio, Taccola, and Alberti and Chinese inventions (and some of the illustrations) do indeed look too close not to be copies from ancient Chinese texts.

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Post time 2008-7-31 19:51:18 |Display all floors
Open your mind, westerners!

So many of you have such closed views of the world, and so many of you are afraid that what you know may not be 100% true.
Maybe, you will learn something that your forefathers have been hiding from you.
Whether or not you believe is not important as the facts will provide the truth.
Maybe, just maybe, it will lead you to discover something new that leads to the mystery of why there was a sudden explosion of knowledge in Europe.

Can you people present any other possible answers that are better than those from Menzies?
No! So think outside the box for a change.

At least Gavin Menzies has presented a theory that aim to unite a growing number of mysterious and curious findings, discoveries and accounts from this time period.

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Post time 2008-7-31 19:54:24 |Display all floors
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