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Post time 2008-7-13 23:11:35 |Display all floors
China, its borders defined by its size at the end of the Qing dynasty, is a unified nation whose parts are, were and always will be part of China.  No breaking away can be tolerated, because its land is sacred.

Now, for those who agree with the above proposition... what's your opinion on the status of the country to the north of China called Mongolia?

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Post time 2008-7-14 04:57:56 |Display all floors
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Post time 2008-7-14 07:15:42 |Display all floors
Well, China recognized Mongolia's independence, mostly because they were under pressure from Russia. Of course, of all the parts of the Qing Dynasty the one seen as the least central to China would probably be Mongolia. I imagine as present most would simply not want such an issue to arise in parts currently belonging to China.

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Post time 2008-7-14 08:15:18 |Display all floors
Originally posted by thepeop at 2008-7-14 00:11
China, its borders defined by its size at the end of the Qing dynasty, is a unified nation whose parts are, were and always will be part of China.  No breaking away can be tolerated, because its la ...



With the demise of the Qing dynasty Mongolia declared independence in 1911/1912 (?). The then very weak new Chinese government was forced to cede this land. In the following years the KMT government and after WWII the new Chinese government acknowledged the independence of Mongolia. Therefore I believe that this is a non issue.

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Post time 2008-7-14 08:16:24 |Display all floors
Mongolia is Mongolia. It was never part of China and, indeed, the Mongols under the Khans conquered China way back, so how can it be said that Mongolia is part of China....the mind boggles! Someone'll probably cook up a story to try and persuade us that it is part of China.....no doubt!

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Post time 2008-7-14 08:20:36 |Display all floors
Originally posted by exportedkiwi at 2008-7-14 09:16
Mongolia is Mongolia. It was never part of China and, indeed, the Mongols under the Khans conquered China way back, so how can it be said that Mongolia is part of China....the mind boggles! Someone ...




Kiwi,

It was part of China since the days of Khublai Khan until 1911/1912.

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Post time 2008-7-14 08:40:38 |Display all floors

History class 101.

National boundaries are always tricky. To simplify matters let us remember the  present PRC was established in 1949 as a result of a civil war between the Chinese. KMT lost and the CCP won. The PRC therefore inherited the whole of what Chiang KS ruled over .Mongolia became independent in 1911.

The CCP was at its weakest and most isolated . She could barely survive ,let alone prosper, with just below a billion mouths to feed. It was all she  could do to prevent the west from disemboweling the country with attacks through Korea, Tbt and Taiwan. The rest ,as they say, is history.

I am so glad to be able to educate the likes of thepeop who loves to display there ignorance in taunting and goading .I hope you have learned something .

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