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Post time 2008-6-18 22:15:38 |Display all floors
Originally posted by 441424 at 2008-6-18 23:14


even it takes time. Nothing lasts forever.




This is true but perhaps not in our lifetime?

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Post time 2008-6-18 23:01:38 |Display all floors

maybe, I am basing on past boom scenarios ...

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Post time 2008-6-18 23:07:54 |Display all floors
Originally posted by satsu_jin at 2008-6-18 15:14
NW,

I can only comment from a German or French position. I wouldn't call it Arabisation but indeed there are many immigrants from the Maghreb nations (Tunesia, Algeria and Morocco) in France and from Turkey (def, a non Arab but Muslim state) in Germany. To integrate these people is very difficult mainly because they themselves prefer not to form too close bonds with their compatriots (in France) or their host nation (in Germany). It also doesn't help if a Turkish PM on a state visit in Germany promotes Turkish schools for his compatriots. This would even further widen the gap between them and the Germans. Contrary to nations such as Canada, Australia, the US etc., European countries are traditionally non immigrant nations. I believe it will take more than another generation to change the mindset of the majority of continental Europeans. ...


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In further run, do you think it's possible that the Arabic population in Europe upset the partnership between US and Europe? I mean if their numbers are high enough to form a bloc in election, they may have louder voice in certain policy, right?
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Post time 2008-6-18 23:48:41 |Display all floors
Originally posted by 441424 at 2008-6-19 00:01


in other places. They all have certain similarities. The money flow follows the cheapest labor.



This is also true but then the question is whether China is still interested to have the cheapest labor jobs. Increase in the standard of living is a precondition for further development. We'll see.

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Post time 2008-6-18 23:53:32 |Display all floors

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Post time 2008-6-19 11:17:14 |Display all floors
In further run, do you think it's possible that the Arabic population in Europe upset the partnership between US and Europe? I mean if their numbers are high enough to form a bloc in election, they may have louder voice in certain policy, right?

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No, I don't think so. Their numbers are high but at least in Germany the vast majority of Turks don't want to have German citizenship, hence they are not allowed to vote in national elections. I'm not sure about the French North Africans. I don't know whether they're officially French citizens but if this is the case it didn't have much impact in past elections.

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