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The USA, RSA, and UK Political Merry-Go-Round. Revised [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2008-5-16 20:00:45 |Display all floors

No worries Rocky

'Gordon Brown was elected by the British people.'

If we wish to get technical dragons, Gordon Brown was elected (In the 2005 General Election) as the Member of Parliament for the constituency of Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath (East coast of Scotland) with 58.1% of the votes cast (24,278 votes) on a turnout of 58.4% of elegible voters actually casting their vote.

You could, if you wish, work out the sums to figure out how much of the elegible vote Brown got, but this was the only time (Other than at previous general elections) that Brown was elected, and by the Scottish people too.

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Post time 2008-5-16 20:40:23 |Display all floors
Originally posted by zglobal at 2008-5-16 15:26
Nationality is your country of citizenship and/or passport not your ethnicity.

Have Australian and British passports and hence have dual nationality.

Sorry dragon, but you are confusing Natio ...


Exactly.  I think this is a matter of semantics.  It doesn't help of course that the Chinese government refers to its minority ethnicities as "Nationalities".

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Post time 2008-5-16 20:41:55 |Display all floors
Originally posted by dragons at 2008-5-16 15:50
Those are the ways your country determine nationality.  Not the American way.  American distingusih their people  within the United States by their nationality, such as Italian Americans, Irish Ame ...


You are wrong.  A Chinese American is of 'Chinese' (i.e. Han usually) ethnicity , and American nationality.

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Post time 2008-5-17 05:09:41 |Display all floors

Respond to "TheDac"

Originally posted by thedacs at 2008-5-16 17:16
'This Prime Minister Gordon Brown is not an Englishman.  He is Scottish.  The reason why he was elected is because Scotland is on the verge of breaking away from the United Kingdom (which is obviou ...


We are good friends to the Loch Ness Monster, so we know more about the British Isles than anyone else.  You info about British politic can be easily obtain from a text book or encyclopedia.  According to your explanation,  it is so happened that Gordon Brown was strolling along Downing Street, and at "Number 10" when he met Merlin, and with the touch of his magic wand Gordon Brown became Prime Minister.   For this he may have prevented the Scots for becoming independent from the UK.   You seem to know little or nothing about realistic British politic as an UK resident.

Quoth theDac,"Good Luck to the Scots if they vote for independence."  The reason why Great Britain need to have Scotland is similar to what George W. Bush's explanation of why he is invading Iraq.  For liberty, justice, freedom and democracy?  Or to defeat Osama or Obama what's the difference?    He was going after the petroleum reserve in Iraq.

Scotland is controlling the largest portion of the North Sea petroleum reserve.  Without Scotland, the English will have to pay more $20 USD for a gallon or whatever equivalent to GBP/litre doubling the current

$10 per gallon.  If she is not awarding Mandela the St. George Cross medal because she wants Obama to be elected, she should come out and say so to avoid confusion.  Imagine what will happen if Obama was elected.

Also, imagine what will happen if the United Kingdom loses Scotland:


(1) She will be called Ununited Kingdom,   
(2) Her police headquarters will be called "England Yard."   
(3) The "Union Jack" will be missing one color and call "Union Jill".   
(4) The Queen cannot call her husband Duke of Edingburgh but have to call him Duke of Yorkshire
except he is not fat enough.  
(5) The male members of the Royal Family  will no longer wear skirts.  
(6)  The English will not drink Scotch.
(7)  James Bond 007 will have to work for Scotland.


It will be a disaster for both Scotalnd and England.   So keep United!  
Look what the "Dungeon and Dragon" have done to British politic.

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Post time 2008-5-17 10:43:08 |Display all floors

Reply #33 dragons's post

Use more electric trains.


ha ha ha


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Post time 2008-5-18 14:37:01 |Display all floors

reply #32, renegadedog9

Originally posted by renegadedog9 at 2008-5-16 20:41

You are wrong.  A Chinese American is of 'Chinese' (i.e. Han usually) ethnicity , and American nationality.


As I have discussed earlier, "Ethnic groups or ethnicity include people such as "Latino" which can come from more than twenty (20) countries.  Ethnic groups or ethnicity also include religious groups such as Christian, Catholic, Buddhist, Jews, and Muslim which have nothing to do with countries."  

Have you study logic before?  "Asian" is another ethnic group or ethnicity term which consists of people from more than thirty (30) countries including Chinese.  It will be illogically to say Chinese is also an ethnicity.   How can people distinguish?  It will be very confusing.

If the discussion is about John McCain, we should use the American way.  Are you living in the United States?   Unlike China the U. S. is a multiple racial country.  Even if you look a little bit different, Americans will first assume you are already an American.  Then they will ask about your nationality?  If they already know that you are a foreigner, they will simply ask about which country you are from?  but not "nationality."   

Although I don't like it, but this is the American way - selfish.  First of all, they should not called themselves "American" because Americans could be people from North and South American.  Then, they should not call their baseball championship "World Series" because it was played only by the U. S. and Canada, etc.....

Most importantly, Be realistic, don't you think the word "ethnicity" is, kind of, difficult to pronounce?  or difficult for people to listen to or comprehense?  Who really want to say it?

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Post time 2008-5-18 16:59:34 |Display all floors

reply #34 green dragon

Originally posted by greendragon at 2008-5-17 10:43
Use more electric trains.


ha ha ha


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Good point, you think?    But not good enough!  You must have forgotten that the bulk of British hydro-electric power came from Loch Ness and other lakes in Scotland.  That is why I said we are good friends to the Loch Ness monster. The situation will be even worse for electric trains unless you mean those you played during Christmas.  There are more coal in England than Scotland, coal trains can be used but most of them are obsolete.

[ Last edited by dragons at 2008-5-18 05:24 PM ]

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