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No, Tibet =/= australia, new zealand, america, brazil, argentina, siberia, canada, and south africa.|
if you didn't notice the latter is just a LITTLE bit bigger and no genocide of Tibetan or destruction of Tibetan culture (aside from turning some of them into busisnessmen or people who aren't starving) has really occurred.
Originally posted by schreiber at 2007-7-22 12:59
Mengzhi, you mean colonization like in Tibet, right? You mean exploitation as in rampant corruption or demanding sole recognition in exchange for diplomatic ties? Perhaps you refer to humiliating w ...
Sorry if you bring history into any discussion about china you're going to lose. It's indisputable fact that europe was "a cancer" to the world. The "Western model" of African development is a steaming pile of sh!t; butchering people and bulldozing their economies for personal gain isn't exactly ideal. Even the US has not done very much to benefit poor african countries. It is nothing but a overfed piece of subhuman garbage that is consuming itself and everyone else to death. It has been arrogant enough to criticize China when the US won't even supply education or personnel to help African agriculture or infrastructure-- something China does regularly.
All western press basically boils down to whites being pissed off they can no longer treat Africans with a racist, condescending attitude: Westerners have faded into irrelevance in Africa, and this strikes a sour note with the old slave master, e.g. "how dare my former slaves get uppity with me (gasp) and start talking to these yellow bastards."
It's not the first time i've heard this crap either, lots of "humane" (not to mention very fat, safe, and virus-free) westerners debt gouging africa to death, humiliation and perpetual serfdom have been moaning up a storm with the usual dose of reactionary overexaggeration, hypocrisy, and wild speculation amidst the journalistic color of red scare and yellow peril. I really wonder what these people would do if they didn't have like 40 million km^2 of land and the resources in them built over the corpses of native populations, really. Once these people actually give a crap about africa, and not @#$! around with their economic incentives to leave them in perpetual debt and squalor, they can have the moral ground to open up their overstuffed mouths and perhaps whine a little in between bites of twinkie and big mac.
Do you even know africa's colonial past or are you so tied up in western chauvinism that you honestly think genocide of tens of millions and slavery for 400 years is comparable to business relations and bilateral trade?
How the hell is what belgium did in the congo even remotely comparable to what china is doing you ignorant piece of garbage? or what was done to the kikuyu, herero? Something like 10 million people MURDERED there and another several million starving to death.
And the murder and rape is just scratching the surface; you can take out your "blame pie graph" and cut out a big share of darfur/rwanda for colonial racism.
Then there's the whole thing about you know, 90% of the good, arable land going to whites and millions of africans starving to death (Congo had a -66% population growth. Wow, how "progressive", "western", "modern", and "human.. righteous!")
We'll forgive the whole genocide of amerindians, 8 nations alliance bankrupting Qing china, genocide of maoris, genocide of native americans, genocide of first nation's peoples, displacement of siberians, and the annexation of outer manchuria/parts of outer mongolia/sakhalin island for now.
God forbid resources are exchanged without some pompous buffoonery from some world coalition of G8 nazis. America and europe haven't been making amends at all, their "aid" is something that screws economic incentives, subjects africans to the volatility of foreign markets, gouges them with debt that simply do not deserve to be paid back, and puts them in constant state of subsistence so they will need to export resources just to survive. The African Colonization thing isn't over until the former colonial powers fix the damage they've done. And they haven't, showing themselves to be the selfish pieces of sh!t they are.
BTW These are not my words! They are from a guy called ferins. I thought it was a good reply to those that bring Tibet into the discussion.
[ Last edited by changabula at 2007-7-25 09:05 PM ]