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The truth behind "Racism" [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2007-7-9 12:08:50 |Display all floors
Racism is not some aweful bad thing.. its genetic

in america, the word Racism was invented to be politically correct

dont preach it as some sort of Holy Law.

And America is a place where people can forget who they are and where they come from rather easily

and your children or Grangchildren may not even know your actual identity or culture

and if an African man, a Mexican Man, a Brazilian, a Russian, a German, a British Man, a Norwegian Man, a Chinese man, a Japanese man, a Filipino man, a Jordanian man, a Iranian man, a Egyptian man, a Nigerian man, a Ethiopian man, and Israeli man, a Greek man,  a Hawaiian man, and a Native North American man were all to sit in a classroom they would all have different levels of performance, those are cultural barriers, Genetic differences, different upbringings, household variances, parental guidance, etc etc

if each of those men above had children born in America, their children would also vary almost as greatly, due to the influence of the parents and THOUSANDS of years of evolution giving them their genetc make up

their grand children and great grand children and so on forever will also have varying abilities, inteligences, gifts, talents, learning ability, comprehension, ideas etc..

your daily ideas are a product of thousands of generations of people before you.. they have made you you

Race Wars are the most fundamental part of humanity

there have hardly been a single war or conflict in history that wasnt related to the race of a people

the American Civil War, ironically enough, was the same people, of the same race.. fighting for people of different races to be treated as 'equals'

betraying their own race, heritage, history, ancestory and culture, for an idea that gave everything they had to people of another race

that has never happened in world history..

letting their race be disgarded was also perhaps the greatest travesty to the African people and the reason they have a world of troubles and seem to be lost people

all troubles in America would cease to exist if people remained true to their race and creed and color and roots, and culture, and history, and ancestory, and heritage, and bloodline

but that would make them too powerful to be brought under control in Amreica, America easily subdues most cultures in the world simply by isolating them from the rest of the people of whatever race they were

the world is racist, Chinese are, Japanese are, koreans are, filipinos are, Indians are, Russians are, Germans are, the Mediterranean peoples, European peoples, African peoples, Central and south American peoples, it is truth, as sure as my blood runs through my veins then my heritage and culture also lives on through my race

and without people of my race, my culture and heritage, and in fact, RACE will also die, and be no more,

thus Race defines us as Humans

and ALL things are directly or indirectly related to you Genes.
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Post time 2007-7-9 13:17:03 |Display all floors
dumb? i dont think you know how to appreciate something good when you see it.
nicely written, leetassassin. couldnt have done it better myself =D

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Post time 2007-7-10 08:59:22 |Display all floors
Originally posted by schreiber at 2007-7-9 12:17
This is the dumbest thing I've seen on this forum. You are the new Chang.


racism has become the tool of the day for foreign people in China to try to be admitted into Chinese society on the basis they are Chinese too (all except for their Race, Culture, Heritage, Morals, Ideals, Values, ideas, History, Ancestory, and EVERYTHING ELSE that defines any human on the face of this planet)

dont cry, you are not Chinese and never will be, ever,, its a race of people which you will never be apart of

you arent Chinese


a Race

Chinese is a Race

its Racial

and "Racist"

two words that make you feel you need a hard spanking

its ALSO a nationality, i.e. Taiwanese, Hongkongnese, American, Canadian, etc...

but Race is Chinese and within "Chinese" race there are other Races

Race Race Race Race Race Race Race Race Race Race
Racial Racial Racial Racial Racial Racial Racial Racial Racial
Racist Racist Racist Racist Racist Racist Racist Racist Racist

you will NEVER EVER EVER be what you are not born to be

its Genetic

dont Cry Clown

You're a wannabe Chinese arent you
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Post time 2007-7-10 09:53:41 |Display all floors

Race?

A collection of artificial phenotypes, nothing more!

There is no genetic linkage of color pigmentation to any other loci.

What do you know about genetics?

Please fill our ears with something of substance instead of rehashed trailer-trash KKK drunken talk -- you can join changabula, tongluren and flotsam as a blabber-mouthed idiots talking out their arse about nothin' but hot-air.

Put up kid, or stfu!

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Post time 2007-7-10 10:47:38 |Display all floors

Please explain the following, professor

Genes, Environment, and Race
Quantitative Genetic Approaches

Keith E. Whitfield and Gerald McClearn
Pennsylvania State University

Genes and Race

Uses and definitions of the term race vary greatly among
academic disciplines, policymakers, and the general public.
Ethnicity is sometimes used as an alternate term. We consider
it important to offer operational distinctions between
race and ethnicity because they are terms that characterize
people in different ways. Although these definitions do
overlap, they involve unique descriptions that provide
meaningful differentiations. Ethnicity has been defined in
many ways but typically describes membership based on
identity, solidarity, and difference felt by members of a
group, particularly a national, regional, or racial group. It
includes shared traditions that are “historically derived”
and a sense of descent. Ethnicity is viewed as involving
more group identification that includes individual trajectories
of immigration, history, and language. In contrast, race
is typically viewed as being based on biological differentiations.
The markers for these differences are typically
considered genetic in origin.

Here we present a brief genetic perspective on the
concept, which will be facilitated if a clear terminological
distinction is first made between genetic loci and genetic
alleles. Our particular concern is with polymorphic
genes—genes that exist in alternative forms called alleles.
A locus is a position on a chromosome that can be occupied
by an allele of a gene. By virtue of possessing paired
chromosomes, one from each parent (except in the case of
sex chromosomes in males), each individual has two of
each locus. Thus, discussions of genetic differences among
individuals refer to their specific configurations of alleles at
the loci under examination. With the exception of identical
multiple births, each individual human being’s genetic con-
figuration (genotype) is unique. The disciplines of quantitative
genetics and population genetics are concerned with
issues of describing and explaining this enormous genetic
diversity among individuals and the extent to which populations
may differ in their genetic parameters. Key concepts
include the dynamic processes such as mutation,
differential fitness, differential reproduction, and migration
that affect stability and change in allelic frequencies within
and between populations.

Original definitions of racial categories suggested
three main groups: Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid.
The problem with these categorizations has been and continues
to be the identification of enough genes responsible
for unique relationships within these groups. The results
from these attempts often contradict each other, which is an
indication of the difficulty in making scientific classifications
of race (Cavalli-Sforza, 2000). In these terms, the
definition of race is a relative matter: “a group of individuals
in a species showing closer genetic relationships
within the group than to members of other such groups”
(Hartl & Clark, 1997, p. 121; for a discussion, see Hartl &
Clark). A useful metric in this context is that of genetic
distance, one variant of which is the probability that a
randomly selected allele from one population will be identical
to another allele selected from the same population
relative to the probability that it will be identical to one
selected from a different population (see, e.g., Hartl &
Clark, 1997). Clearly, a genetic categorization of races is
probabilistic. There is no absolute criterion for how great
the genetic distance between groups must be in order to
justify labeling them distinct races. For different purposes,
different criteria may be employed, so that some racial
classification schemes consist of many races with small
interracial distances, whereas others identify only a few
groups with larger intergroup distances.

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Post time 2007-7-10 12:52:04 |Display all floors
first of all I dont think I can really argue such a hypotheitcal and basically open position that leaves ground for any one to argue anything they wish in a scientific frontier that modern science has yet to scratch the surface of, and an even far greater mystery is the human brain, and how it relates to physical ancestory, and thus, My position and original pst offers far more detailed insight and meat for study than this braindead thing you posted, but whatever, if you want me to explain it further than that, here it goes..

We consider
it important to offer operational distinctions between
race and ethnicity because they are terms that characterize
people in different ways.


RACE and ETHNICITY characterizes people in DIFFERENT WAYS

i dont see how that relates to anything I said other than reaffirming some universal knowledge

and how and why people label things under Race vz. Ethnicity is pretty much at the discretion of the user..

Ethnicity has been defined in
many ways but typically describes membership based on
identity, solidarity, and difference felt by members of a
group, particularly a national, regional, or racial group.


typically.. and whatever... according to this writer, whose entire article seems to be redefining Race and Ethnicity as being seperate

Here we present a brief genetic perspective on the
concept, (of ethnicity and race) which will be facilitated if a clear terminological
distinction is first made between genetic loci and genetic
alleles. Our particular concern is with polymorphic
genes—genes that exist in alternative forms called alleles.


oooh loci and alleles, central most in any conversation concerning something which may or may not be related to something we dont even comprehend the scope of

Our particular concern is with polymorphic
genes—genes that exist in alternative forms called alleles.


alleles are polymorphic Genes, or genes which also exist in alternate forms.. which forms? there isnt even much known about it

A locus is a position on a chromosome that can be occupied
by an allele of a gene.


Loci is plural of Locus, the location on the chromosome which MAY be occupied by an Allele

By virtue of possessing paired
chromosomes..... each individual has two of
each locus.


or two loci

Thus, discussions of genetic differences among
individuals refer to their specific configurations of alleles at
the loci under examination.


so, humans have 2 loci, 2 places which may (also) be occupied by an allele of a gene, or a gene tht exists in different forms, i.e... not the same form


each individual human being’s genetic con-
figuration (genotype) is unique. [quote]

... everyones different... these are arent rocket scientists are they

[quote]The disciplines of quantitative
genetics and population genetics are concerned with
issues of describing and explaining this enormous genetic
diversity among individuals and the extent to which populations
may differ in their genetic parameters.


2 "disciplines" or people with ideas they firmly believe and are trying to explain away.. which in fact are concerned more with the similarities of groups of peoples and the way those groups of peoples differ from other groups of peoples

Key concepts
include the dynamic processes such as mutation,
differential fitness, differential reproduction, and migration
that affect stability and change in allelic frequencies within
and between populations.[quote]

dynamic processes of mutation,
differential fitness, differential reproduction, and migration doesnt state a whole lot of anything at all, except maybe migration having an effect on Alleles, which is in that disciplines belief as a possibility, but in reality is just their Science, and not universal truth, but even if migration of peoples could change Alleles over thousands of generations, then it would just reinforce the differences I stated

[quote] It includes shared traditions that are “historically derived”
and a sense of descent.


in addition to dynamic proccesses apparently.. in their own fantasy world of Science the "sense" of people has something to do with their genetic make-up..

Ethnicity is viewed as involving
more group identification that includes individual trajectories
of immigration, history, and language


generally, sometimes, maybe, perhaps,  just really means it INVOLVES MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE PERSON IN QUESTION.


Race is typically viewed as being based on biological differentiations
The markers for these differences are typically
considered genetic in origin.


excluding differentiations which The disciplines of quantitative
genetics and population genetics seem to feel ARE gentetic in origin, but what they mean by that is that it is commonly accepted by modern opinion and science that those are genetic differences, exculding the extremely vast and very new frontier of DNA mapping and Blueprinting

and all that is "typically" labelled Race

Original definitions of racial categories suggested
three main groups Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid.


a long long time ago... 3 races is not possible, and was based on the eyes perception of people

The problem with these categorizations has been and continues
to be the identification of enough genes responsible
for unique relationships within these groups. The results
from these attempts often contradict each other, which is an
indication of the difficulty in making scientific classifications
of race (Cavalli-Sforza, 2000).


ok great, thats a step forward for all humanity, MANY moe groups and classifications are required...  NOT grouping everyone into 1 category as YOU would like to do

“a group of individuals
in a species showing closer genetic relationships
within the group than to members of other such groups”


that kind of comment sounds like what a monkey would say if he could talk

A useful metric in this context is that of genetic
distance, one variant of which is the probability that a
randomly selected allele from one population will be identical
to another allele selected from the same population
relative to the probability that it will be identical to one
selected from a different population (see, e.g., Hartl &
Clark, 1997).


1997 was a long long time ago
today everything is about Gene Sequencing..

Clearly, a genetic categorization of races is
probabilistic.


todays science is supporting everything I have said, not contradicting it

and you will see new gene sequences advancing further to further identify and classify people of a certain indentity, and mis identifying people through modern stereotyping techniques will completely vanish as Gene Sequencing is perfected

racial classification schemes consist of many races with small
interracial distances, whereas others identify only a few
groups with larger intergroup distances.


Chinese has many smaller ethnic groups under the Chinese Race.. Polynesia is a Different race from Melanesia and Micronesia, and within Polynesia there are the Tongan people, the Samoan, the Hawaiian people, the Marquesan, Maori, Tahitian, etc..

whatever you posted didnt really help to support any claim.. perhaps it was a reply to the other poster?
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