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Should China Use a Failed Democratic Model? [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2007-6-21 22:23:04 |Display all floors
Originally posted by zglobal at 21-6-2007 13:58
If the U.S doesn't have it right why would we expect China to have it right.

That's a rather pathetic excuse, not that anyone is saying China SHOULD have it right now. Other countries have better and fairer education systems that the US - there are many other countries one can look at.
"People are the water, the ruler is the boat; water can carry the boat, but it can also capsize it."

-- Li Shimin (2nd Tang Emperor, "Taizong")

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Post time 2007-6-21 23:12:19 |Display all floors
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Post time 2007-10-22 15:47:07 |Display all floors

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Post time 2007-10-23 01:31:19 |Display all floors
I'm tired of people saying that democracy doesn't work for some people.

People have gotten the system backwards. One favorite quote of mine from Alexander Woolcott sums this up nicely: "I'm tired of hearing it said that democracy doesn't work. Of course it doesn't work. We are supposed to work it."

Democracy is one size fits all, the problem is when people think it fits everyone the same way.

China has to develop in its own democracy, just like every other country. Gordon Brown is making a lot of reforms to the British system by expanding the rights of local governments, delegating powers to the parliament, and making appointees more accountable. The U.S. system had to go through several reform before it could be as democratic as it is now. Our system was seriously undemocratic in its early stages, but several reformists came up and began to change that around. Even now people are talking about ways to change the system by expanding the power of citizens and reforming or eliminating the electoral college. So even democratic countries are in a constant stage of democratic reform.

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Post time 2007-10-27 14:18:38 |Display all floors

Democracies Are Too Weak to Make Reforms

As you witness in America today, everyone can see that the administration is doing it wrong.  How wrong?  America used to be respected.  That is now long gone.  The name "America" today is synonymous with "despicable."  Yet do you see reforms?  Democracies, with the inherent push and pull of the different parties, are weak and inefficient.  They are not well equipped to fix their own shortcomings.   Look at how the Republicans were able to block almost all reforms in the last year, even after their resounding defeat at the polls in 2006.  
It is only when there is a powerful leader that is also good (Bush is powerful in that he bulldozes everything, but he is truly evil), that the democracy has any hope of improving.  

You cannot change the empirical fact that ALL governments are by the elite.  I can think of 20 different elite ruled political systems that does not go the Western democratic route, that would be more effective and be much better at reforms.

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Post time 2007-10-28 01:53:36 |Display all floors
It's not as if the PRC hasn't had this happen before. We're not allowed to discuss it, but by comparison to what the PRC did, Bush is an international winner. The US hasn't diplomatically isolated itself while China has done so numerous times and once in a very very big way.
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Post time 2007-10-28 02:32:26 |Display all floors
Originally posted by tongluren at 2007-10-27 14:18
They are not well equipped to fix their own shortcomings.   

They are just not wise enough to fix the problems that they have created around the world.

They are good at one thing and that is their ability to bomb other countries back to the stone age and take what they want by force.

Can anyone argue otherwise?
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