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Should China Use a Failed Democratic Model? [Copy link] 中文

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Post time 2008-3-18 21:35:12 |Display all floors
Originally posted by fatdragon at 2008-3-18 21:01
''Modest'' growth?   What happens when China takes the brakes off?  


Maybe then we'll learn the "democratic" way, blame it on outside forces.

J/K.

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Post time 2008-3-18 21:46:26 |Display all floors
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Post time 2008-3-18 23:42:09 |Display all floors
democracy is opposite.i think that there are no one polity is the best but better.

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Post time 2008-3-19 01:32:21 |Display all floors

Handling Dissent

The objective facts are there.  China has a must faster growth rate and China gets real things done in must shorter times - the biggest airport in the world, tens of thousands of miles of rails, ports, thousands of high rises, etc.  India does not.   

Both countries have dissent.  China chose not to allow dissent to slow the nation down, by enforcing harmony and one voice.  India claims to tolerate dissent, and as a result the dissent becomes worse over the years.   Some would claim that India's way is "better."  But I still have yet to see an objective manifestation of what that "better" is.  India's press is supposedly "free."  So it is used by all manner of 牛鬼蛇神 bulls demons snakes and (fake) gods to air their agiprop.  Does India have less protest and more security?  I am not seeing it.  Just Gujarat alone sees monthly unrests that just won't go away.  Yet there is talk of developing that city (of slums) into a high tech center.  I say good luck.

Democracy is not a good in itself or a goal in itself.  It is just a tool, a method of government, and certainly NOT a very efficacious one at that.  You just look at Iraq - the Yanks claim that they are going to bring in democracy, but what do they have to do to enforce that democracy?  They have to send in hundreds of thousands of highly trained killing machinese (soldiers), and from the 4 star generals on down (Casey was one of the named ones) to PFC, were trained to dehumanize the locals and actually anybody non-American or non-European as "Hajis" - mind you, not a name, not a person, but a "Haji."  That is even worse then the Nazi's concentration camps, where every Jew has a number.  In Iraq those imprisoned in their own country do not even warrant a separate number - just the faceless inhuman identifier "Haji."  Since Hajis are not human, according to the democratic American teachings, they can be dealt with anyway the soldiers please.  So you see rules of engagement like "You are allowed to eliminate anything with hostile intent.  Use your own judgment."  "Shoot all taxis because the terrorists are using them for transportation," "Sarge, those are not the right men.  Oh, don't worry about it, I'm sure they would have wanted to do something anyway."  "Today anyone wearing a red scarf or sitting on the rooftop or talking on a cell phone is hostile."  "If those Hajis (in this case two parents and their 3 and 4 year old children who were cut into multiple pieces by over 1000 rounds of 50 mm machine gun fire at a traffic checkpoint) learned how to drive it wouldn't have happened.  Don't worry about it."  That is what American democracy is about.  Very poignant on this 5th anniversary of the Iraqi occupation that is scheduled to go on for 100 years.   All hail DEMOCRACY.

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Post time 2008-3-19 05:31:29 |Display all floors
Originally posted by zglobal at 2008-3-18 21:46
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What makes you think that China is less democratic than the west.

The actual system for members being voted for within the C CP seems more democratic and involves are broader cross se ...


So, your limited understanding of democracy comes down to choosing idiot A or idiot B. That's pathetic. I'm sorry, but you don't know what democracy is. Do some more research into the subject before posting such an idiotic message. There's a lot more to democracy than choosing a president. It comes down to giving the people power over their government and establishing checks and balances. Governments should be afraid of the people, not the other way around.

So, according to you, China is more democratic than the West. What are you smoking? Who ever voted the Party into power? How many Chinese voted in the last election?

If you are a westerner, your ancestors are turning in their graves.

Wake up!

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Post time 2008-3-19 09:04:03 |Display all floors

No It is Not

No, China is by no means anywhere close to the kind of "democracy" demonstrated by Americans in the world, or even that of Gujarat, India - and that is BY CHOICE.  China does not wish to be associated with such atrocities.

What China has is SWCC, the most effective and fair form of government in human history in the last 30 years.  Compare again Gujarat with Lhasa - Gujarat has violent protests and burning of MacDonalds once a couple of months, for the last few decades.  Hundreds of thousands fell victim.   Lhasa's time gap between violent protests were 20 years apart.  Just from the practical point of view the SWCC way is more effective in keeping the peace and promoting security and prosperity.

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