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Post time 2007-4-3 04:14:59 |Display all floors
I'm wondering is it legal to use that kind of phones in Europe? We have PMR-phones which looks like phones in those pics, but the range is terrible, only a couple kilometers. What frequency band those phones are using?

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Post time 2007-4-3 12:47:03 |Display all floors
Originally posted by ronglimeng at 2007-4-2 07:37
Congratulations, janezhang88. This topic seems to have touched an nerve, with 41 responses in 2 days!

I think I can speak for many men, in saying that you are correct about it really being about ...

LOL, I am not a picky woman, I also cant stand to keep selecting from store to store. Each time I began my shopping with high passion, but not all of them had an expected ending,because I don't want to spend much time to buy clothing, I always hope I can settle it down in one mall. How ever, it is impossible. Sometimes we got back quickly due to tiredness, sometimes we stopped shopping by reason of quarrel…….
In fact, it is me not my husband that lose patience first…….

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Post time 2007-4-3 23:59:56 |Display all floors
Originally posted by kossutin at 2007-4-3 04:14
I'm wondering is it legal to use that kind of phones in Europe? We have PMR-phones which looks like phones in those pics, but the range is terrible, only a couple kilometers. What frequency band th ...


Excerpt from the following site:  http://www.nr6ca.org/frs.html



FAMILY RADIO SERVICE (FRS)


The Family Radio Service (FRS) is an unlicensed UHF service that the FCC has allocated for the good of the people. Since no license is required, anyone can obtain and operate FRS equipment at any time. All FRS radio are made as handhelds and battery operated. They operate on a total of 14 different “channels” as shown in the chart below. An additional chart also shows the allocated tones for privacy channel use.

The FRS channels are in the same frequency range as the General Mobile Radio System (GMRS) service which is often used by business interests such as construction. The GMRS radio are allowed much higher power levels (5 watts) and not only use some FRS frequencies but they have other frequencies close by. GMRS requires a license to use. The last I checked it was a 5 year fee of $80.00 for GMRS operation but it does cover all members of your family. That makes FRS look very attractive.

Many of the radios also have digital tone encoding to keep the receiver squelch closed unless that particular tone is received. That does not prevent interference from other users on that channel once the tone has been received and the radios squelch has been opened. What it does allow is a quiet receiver until the specific tone has been received on the channel being monitored. There are 51 different tones available but most manufacturers seem to talk about 38 Privacy Channels. The chart below lists the tones but I can't tell you which tones any given manufacturer uses. All tones are in Hertz.

67.0        69.3        71.9        74.4        77.0
79.7        82.5        85.4        88.5        91.5
94.8        97.4        100.0        103.5        107.2
110.9        114.8        118.8        123.0        127.3
131.8        136.5        141.3        146.2        151.4
156.7        159.8        162.2        165.5        167.9
171.3        173.8        177.3        179.9        183.5
186.2        189.9        192.8        196.6        199.5
203.5        206.5        210.7        218.1        225.7
229.1        233.6        241.8        250.3        254.1



The FRS channels, as well as the GMRS channels often have repeaters set up on them. A GMRS repeater can operate at powers levels up to 50 watts. This further complicates FRS use as it places high power transmitters, often on mountain tops overlooking areas where individuals wish to use their radio. Too partly offset this issue, the FRS radio seem to have been designed with very poor receivers. They just are not able to hear very far. I suspect that the receiver is the limiting factor in the published specification of a 2 mile range.

Family Radio Service radios are FM or frequency modulation radios. This means that as you talk the carrier frequency (as listed below for each of the 14 channels) is varied up and down coinciding with your speech. If nothing is said, the frequency sits still. As you talk it moves back and forth within a predetermined but narrow range. The receiver detector on the other end of the conversation then translates these frequency shifts back into audio that comes out the speaker.


GMRS & FRS Channel Designation Frequency
Channel 1 = 462.5625
Channel 2 = 462.5875
Channel 3 = 462.6125
Channel 4 = 462.6375
Channel 5 = 462.6625
Channel 6 = 462.6875
Channel 7 = 462.7125

FRS Only Channel Designation Frequency
Channel 8 = 467.5625
Channel 9 = 467.5875
Channel 10 = 467.6125
Channel 11 = 467.6375
Channel 12 = 467.6625
Channel 13 = 467.6875
Channel 14 = 467.7125


There are any number of manufacturers making FRS radios. Although you see many names, if truth be known, there are most likely only a handful of companies building them but with lots of different names. Names you will see include:
Motorola (the premium brand)
Coleman
Cobra
Uniden
Kenwood (another premium brand)
Yaesu (premium)
Icom (premium)
Radio Shack
Midland
Sony
Panasonic


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Post time 2007-4-4 00:07:58 |Display all floors
Excerpt from the following site:  http://www.nr6ca.org/frs.html



FAMILY RADIO SERVICE (FRS)


The Family Radio Service (FRS) is an unlicensed UHF service that the FCC has allocated for the good of the people. Since no license is required, anyone can obtain and operate FRS equipment at any time. All FRS radio are made as handhelds and battery operated. They operate on a total of 14 different “channels” as shown in the chart below. An additional chart also shows the allocated tones for privacy channel use.

The FRS channels are in the same frequency range as the General Mobile Radio System (GMRS) service which is often used by business interests such as construction. The GMRS radio are allowed much higher power levels (5 watts) and not only use some FRS frequencies but they have other frequencies close by. GMRS requires a license to use. The last I checked it was a 5 year fee of $80.00 for GMRS operation but it does cover all members of your family. That makes FRS look very attractive.

Many of the radios also have digital tone encoding to keep the receiver squelch closed unless that particular tone is received. That does not prevent interference from other users on that channel once the tone has been received and the radios squelch has been opened. What it does allow is a quiet receiver until the specific tone has been received on the channel being monitored. There are 51 different tones available but most manufacturers seem to talk about 38 Privacy Channels. The chart below lists the tones but I can't tell you which tones any given manufacturer uses. All tones are in Hertz.

67.0        69.3        71.9        74.4        77.0
79.7        82.5        85.4        88.5        91.5
94.8        97.4        100.0        103.5        107.2
110.9        114.8        118.8        123.0        127.3
131.8        136.5        141.3        146.2        151.4
156.7        159.8        162.2        165.5        167.9
171.3        173.8        177.3        179.9        183.5
186.2        189.9        192.8        196.6        199.5
203.5        206.5        210.7        218.1        225.7
229.1        233.6        241.8        250.3        254.1



The FRS channels, as well as the GMRS channels often have repeaters set up on them. A GMRS repeater can operate at powers levels up to 50 watts. This further complicates FRS use as it places high power transmitters, often on mountain tops overlooking areas where individuals wish to use their radio. Too partly offset this issue, the FRS radio seem to have been designed with very poor receivers. They just are not able to hear very far. I suspect that the receiver is the limiting factor in the published specification of a 2 mile range.

Family Radio Service radios are FM or frequency modulation radios. This means that as you talk the carrier frequency (as listed below for each of the 14 channels) is varied up and down coinciding with your speech. If nothing is said, the frequency sits still. As you talk it moves back and forth within a predetermined but narrow range. The receiver detector on the other end of the conversation then translates these frequency shifts back into audio that comes out the speaker.


GMRS & FRS Channel Designation Frequency
Channel 1 = 462.5625
Channel 2 = 462.5875
Channel 3 = 462.6125
Channel 4 = 462.6375
Channel 5 = 462.6625
Channel 6 = 462.6875
Channel 7 = 462.7125

FRS Only Channel Designation Frequency
Channel 8 = 467.5625
Channel 9 = 467.5875
Channel 10 = 467.6125
Channel 11 = 467.6375
Channel 12 = 467.6625
Channel 13 = 467.6875
Channel 14 = 467.7125


There are any number of manufacturers making FRS radios. Although you see many names, if truth be known, there are most likely only a handful of companies building them but with lots of different names. Names you will see include:
Motorola (the premium brand)
Coleman
Cobra
Uniden
Kenwood (another premium brand)
Yaesu (premium)
Icom (premium)
Radio Shack
Midland
Sony
Panasonic


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Post time 2007-4-4 00:10:32 |Display all floors
Originally posted by kossutin at 2007-4-3 04:14
I'm wondering is it legal to use that kind of phones in Europe? We have PMR-phones which looks like phones in those pics, but the range is terrible, only a couple kilometers. What frequency band th ...


GMRS & FRS Channel Designation Frequency
Channel 1 = 462.5625
Channel 2 = 462.5875
Channel 3 = 462.6125
Channel 4 = 462.6375
Channel 5 = 462.6625
Channel 6 = 462.6875
Channel 7 = 462.7125

FRS Only Channel Designation Frequency
Channel 8 = 467.5625
Channel 9 = 467.5875
Channel 10 = 467.6125
Channel 11 = 467.6375
Channel 12 = 467.6625
Channel 13 = 467.6875
Channel 14 = 467.7125

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Post time 2007-4-4 00:15:29 |Display all floors
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Post time 2007-4-4 10:13:07 |Display all floors
why? this is in gene. i can paly basketball for 5 hours without any feeling.but when i accompanyed my ex-gf shopping,i tired just in half an hour.
when i need to buy something,i just go to only one shop,pick one without try on and pay for it,then go home.it just costs me 20 minutes,haha

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