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Post time 2009-7-26 16:44:54 |Display all floors
Originally posted by augusten at 2009-7-26 18:36
What's the result?

They still want the European convicts to breed and propagate on their land?

Not too many convicts from Europe here, anymore.

We do get a small number of crooks and thieves from China and some other Asian nations, who exploit their own people in brothels, market gardens and restaurants.
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Post time 2009-7-26 16:54:31 |Display all floors
Originally posted by emucentral at 2009-7-26 16:42
Oh yeah, such a mess.
Now does Australia shoot its citizens when they travel, without proper documents, to Papua New Guinea ? ...

I don't know, but they loot Papuan recources and leave the chemical garbage for the natives as exchange.

Do r!ots erupt in Queensland k!ll!ng hundreds of Victorians because some Victorians started a rumour about Queenslanders attacking and raping Victorian girls?

I don't know. But you know any foreign terrorist organization contribute to the rumors?

Do New South Wales coal mines operate illegally without safety standards ?

I don't know. But you groomed enough slave labor from Christianized population of aborigines.

Are slaves from South Australia kept as prisoners in Western Australian brickworks?

I dont' know. But you locked refugee in a Woomera desert after your troops bombading their houses back in their country.

Does Australia claim New Zealand as an inseparable part of Australia ?

I don't know. But your troops plunder and rob a poor nation even meddle on how they should form their own government.

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Post time 2009-7-26 16:58:02 |Display all floors
Originally posted by emucentral at 2009-7-26 16:44
Not too many convicts from Europe here, anymore....

Then where you came from?

Some part of Ireland?

Or Newgate in London?

We do get a small number of crooks and thieves from China and some other Asian nations, who exploit their own people in brothels, market gardens and restaurants.

Then why you stil allowed them to came but refuse Afghan refugee to land?

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Post time 2009-7-27 02:24:22 |Display all floors

Originally posted by emucentral at 2009-7-26 16:44

We do get a small number of crooks and thieves from China and some other Asian nations, who exploit their own people in brothels, market gardens and restaurants.

the anglos are rsponsible for ...

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Post time 2009-7-27 19:54:22 |Display all floors
Originally posted by seneca at 2009-7-27 19:51
My stepfather wasn't a criminal, for example, nor are our relatives there as far as records show. ...

I'm not sure about this.

But I'm sure you won't leave China even if you curse and scorn this place almost everyday.

Because you're unwanted out there.

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Post time 2009-7-27 19:55:14 |Display all floors
Originally posted by seneca at 2009-7-27 19:54
And many Whites were (in the past) punished for not casting their votes in referenda. Such was life in a harsh fledgling democracy that the poor had to be forced to take part in democratic game ...

Wow, since China is so bad... then why you still refuse to leave?

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Post time 2009-9-12 04:08:48 |Display all floors

Western 'Historians' start revisions: USSR is to blame for WW2

Western 'Historians' start revisions: USSR is to blame for WW2 Friday, 11 September 2009 Through decades of world commemorations and coverage of the second world war – from Dunkirk to D-day – there has never been any doubt about who started the second world war. However dishonestly the story of 1939 has been abused to justify new wars against quite different kinds of enemies, the responsibility for the greatest conflagration in human history has always been laid at the door of Hitler and his genocidal Nazi regime.

That is until now. Fed by the revival of the nationalist right in eastern Europe and a creeping historical revisionism that tries to equate nazism and communism, some western historians and commentators have seized on the 70th anniversary of Hitler's invasion of Poland this month to claim the Soviet Union was equally to blame for the outbreak of war. Stalin was "Hitler's accomplice", the Economist insisted, after Russian and Polish politicians traded accusations over the events of the late 1930s.

In his introduction to this week's Guardian history of the war, the neoconservative historian Niall Ferguson declared that Stalin was "as much an aggressor as Hitler". Last month, the ostensibly more liberal Orlando Figes went further, insisting the Molotov-Ribbentrop non-aggression pact was "the licence for the Holocaust".

Given that the Soviet Union played the decisive military role in Hitler's defeat at the cost of 25 million dead, it's scarcely surprising that Russians are outraged by such accusations. When the Russian president Dmitry Medvedev last week denounced attempts to draw parallels between the role of the Nazis and the Soviet Union as a "cynical lie", he wasn't just speaking for his government, but the whole country – and a good deal of the rest of the world besides.

There's no doubt that the pact of August 1939 was a shocking act of realpolitik by the state that had led the campaign against fascism since before the Spanish civil war. You can argue about how Stalin used it to buy time, his delusions about delaying the Nazi onslaught, or whether the Soviet occupation of the mainly Ukrainian and Byelorussian parts of Poland was, as Churchill maintained at the time, "necessary for the safety of Russia against the Nazi menace".

But to claim that without the pact there would have been no war is simply absurd – and, in the words of the historian Mark Mazower, "too tainted by present day political concerns to be taken seriously". Hitler had given the order to attack and occupy Poland much earlier. As fellow historian Geoff Roberts puts it, the pact was an "instrument of defence, not aggression".

That was a good deal less true of the previous year's Munich agreement, in which British and French politicians dismembered Czechoslovakia at the Nazi dictator's pleasure. The one pact that could conceivably have prevented war, a collective security alliance with the Soviet Union, was in effect blocked by the appeaser Chamberlain and an authoritarian Polish government that refused to allow Soviet troops on Polish soil.

Poland had signed its own non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany and seized Czech territory, which puts last week's description by the Polish president Lech Kaczynski of a Soviet "stab in the back" in perspective. The case against the Anglo-French appeasers and the Polish colonels' regime over the failure to prevent war is a good deal stronger than against the Soviet Union, which perhaps helps to explain the enthusiasm for the new revisionism in both parts of the continent.

But across eastern Europe, the Baltic republics and the Ukraine, the drive to rewrite history is being used to relativise Nazi crimes and rehabilitate collaborators. At the official level, it has focused on a campaign to turn August 23 – the anniversary of the non-aggression pact – into a day of commemoration for the victims of communism and nazism.

In July that was backed by the Organisation of Security and Cooperation in Europe, following a similar vote in the European parliament and a declaration signed by Vaclav Havel and others branding "communism and nazism as a common legacy" of Europe that should be jointly commemorated because of "substantial similarities".

That east Europeans should want to remember the deportations and killings of "class enemies" by the Soviet Union during and after the war is entirely understandable. So is their pressure on Russia to account, say, for the killing of Polish officers at Katyn – even if Soviet and Russian acknowledgment of Stalin's crimes already goes far beyond, for example, any such apologies by Britain or France for the crimes of colonialism.

But the pretence that Soviet repression reached anything like the scale or depths of Nazi savagery – or that the postwar "enslavement" of eastern Europe can be equated with wartime Nazi genocide – is a mendacity that tips towards Holocaust denial. It is certainly not a mistake that could have been made by the Auschwitz survivors liberated by the Red Army in 1945.

The real meaning of the attempt to equate Nazi genocide with Soviet repression is clearest in the Baltic republics, where collaboration with SS death squads and direct participation in the mass murder of Jews was at its most extreme, and politicians are at pains to turn perpetrators into victims.
Veterans of the Latvian Legion of the Waffen-SS now parade through Riga, Vilnius's Museum of Genocide Victims barely mentions the 200,000 Lithuanian Jews murdered in the Holocaust and Estonian parliamentarians honour those who served the Third Reich as "fighters for independence".

Most repulsively of all, while rehabilitating convicted Nazi war criminals, the state prosecutor in Lithuania – a member of the EU and Nato – last year opened a war crimes investigation into four Lithuanian Jewish resistance veterans who fought with Soviet partisans: a case only abandoned for lack of evidence. As Efraim Zuroff, veteran Nazi hunter and director of the Simon Wiesenthal Centre, puts it: "People need to wake up to what is going on. This attempt to create a false symmetry between communism and the Nazi genocide is aimed at covering up these countries' participation in mass murder."

As the political heirs of the Nazis' collaborators in eastern Europe gain strength on the back of growing unemployment and poverty, and antisemitism and racist violence against Roma grow across the region, the current indulgence of historical falsehoods about the second world war can only spread this poison.
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