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Post time 2007-2-6 11:21:16 |Display all floors

Australia called in Chinese Ambassador

But, cooperation between China & America & Russia, will be the best choice, for the sake of using the best technology to advance our living standard.

Australia hauled the Chinese Ambassador into DFAT to demand an explanation for the test!

China is the third nation to demonstrate the capability to intercept an orbiting satellite. China is not the first, not the second, but the third. So, by definition, China is not driving the arms race in space, rather, China perceives a potential threat to her security and is reacting to it by developing counter-measures.

Now why didn't Australia demand an explanation from former President Reagan back in 1983 for his Strategic Defence Initiatives (SDI), nicknamed "Star Wars"?

Like I said, racial hatred is never far from the surface when dealing with Howard's ilks. It is alright for the whities to threaten the world with an arms race in space, but it is definitely not alright for a developing country like China to defend herself.

So once again, my question: "Why didn't white Australia haul the USofA Ambassador into DFAT to demand an explanation for former President Reagan's SDI?"

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Post time 2007-2-13 10:44:00 |Display all floors

latest news: China says no more satellite-killer tests

China says no more satellite-killer tests

TOKYO (AFP)  -- China does not plan another anti-satellite test, its defence minister was quoted as saying, a month after Beijing became the third country to shoot down an object in space.

National Defence Minister Cao Gangchuan also repeated that China had no hostile intent in carrying out the satellite-killer test, said Japan's former defence chief Fukushiro Nukaga, who met with him in Beijing.

"China conducted a scientific and technical experiment," Nukaga quoted Cao as saying, according to Kyodo News.

"It is not targeted at any country and is not a threat to any country. We do not plan further tests," Cao was quoted as adding.

China on January 11 destroyed one of its own orbiting weather satellites in space with a ballistic missile. The only other countries to carry out such "Star Wars" experiments were the United States and the former Soviet Union, which entered a moratorium in 1985 amid concern over debris in space.

The Chinese test triggered an outcry worldwide, including from the United States and Japan, which both have many spy satellites in space.

China had earlier pressed the United States for a permanent ban on satellite-killer tests, but Washington has resisted.

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Post time 2007-2-14 10:55:38 |Display all floors

U.S. fights China, Russia on space arms

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The United States clashed with China and Russia during a disarmament debate Tuesday over how to prevent an arms race in outer space, and Washington criticized Beijing for its recent test of an anti-satellite missile. Russia and China, in turn, condemned the "one state" that refuses to consider a treaty banning space weapons — a reference to the U.S.

The meeting of the 65-nation Conference on Disarmament came a month after China launched a warhead from a ballistic missile to destroy one of its old weather satellites — a test that was widely criticized as a provocative display of the Asian country's growing military capability.

Despite the test, Beijing joined Moscow on Tuesday in renewing their five-year-old initiative to establish an international accord against weapons deployment in outer space. They maintain that Washington's developing anti-missile systems could set off a new arms race.

"The notion that introducing weapons and the threat of force into outer space could be a sustainable way of securing strategic advantage and legitimate defense objectives is fundamentally flawed," they said in a working paper distributed to delegations.

China and Russia said attempts to have global military dominance by the use of space "are counterproductive and jeopardize the security of all humanity."

One country's bid to have "impregnable defenses" is dangerous because it could "lead to new instruments of war and to an arms race," the paper said.

U.S. Ambassador Christina Rocca sought to correct what she said were misconceptions about U.S. space policy. She said Washington was committed to ensuring the use of space for peaceful purposes, but insisted that it would pursue programs to ensure that its satellites and other spacecraft were protected.

"Put simply, these assets are vital to our national security, including our economic interests, and must be defended," Rocca told delegations.

In Beijing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said her country "has always advocated the peaceful use of space, and advocates strengthening international exchanges and cooperation on the peaceful use of outer space."

The Russian and Chinese proposal has been stymied by the United States since they introduced it in 2002, two weeks after the United States withdrew from the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty.

President Bush signed an order in October tacitly asserting the U.S. right to space weapons, and opposing the development of treaties or other measures restricting them.

Rocca told the conference, "We must be very concerned about the emerging threats to our space assets," citing China's Jan. 11 test, which she said "created hundreds of pieces of large orbital debris, the majority of which will stay in orbit for more than 100 years."

China's neighbors Japan and South Korea also have expressed concern about the dangers to their satellite communications posed by the debris.

Rocca said the U.S. was only exercising its right to self-defense.

"The United States is not out to claim space for its own or weaponize it," but needs to develop the defenses because a "relatively small number of countries" either possess or are developing the capability to attack and defeat vital U.S. space systems by jamming satellite links, blinding sensors or launching anti-satellite weapons, she said.

Nevertheless, Rocca said, "we believe there is no arms race in space, and therefore no problem for arms control to solve."

Japanese Ambassador Sumio Tarui described the Sino-Russian plan as "vague and obscure."

German Ambassador Bernhard Brassack, speaking on behalf of the 27-nation European Union, said countries should be realistic seek a compromise short of a full treaty.

"The recent test of an anti-satellite weapon should serve as a wake-up call," he said.

On Monday, former Japanese defense chief Fukushiro Nukaga said Chinese Defense Minister Cao Gangchuan told him the test wasn't targeted at any other nations and there were no plans for a follow up.

Despite such assurances, several countries and scientists have expressed concern that the debris created by the test could damage or interfere with satellites in orbit.

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Post time 2007-2-14 19:01:49 |Display all floors

Congratulations to USofA for the response - take that, China!

The USofA delegate Rocca said: 'Put simply, these assets are vital to our national security, including our economic interests, and must be defended...'.

Well put, my hearty congratulations to the USofA. A wonderful response to China and Russia.

To which China, the third country to demonstrate the capability to intercept a satellite (not the first or second) should humbly say following to the USofA and Russia: 'Put simply, these assets are vital to our national security, including our economic interests, and must be defended...'.

Good response, China.

In other words, next time you guys come slaughtering Chinese for fun; for the sake of predatory Anglo-style colonialism; for third class world citizenships to serve the interest of Anglos; whatever... we have the wherewithal to stop you from killing our children and our children's children.

We want to live equal amongst equals, not subservient to Americans, British etc

Okay there?

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Post time 2007-3-12 22:19:05 |Display all floors

Reply #46 cestmoi's post

Although I cannot blame China for testing a defensive policy (satelite killer) to counter US dominance of space, the real concern besides giving the US military a heart attack     Is the real concern amongst the countless countries with communications satelites in orbit. Fully 70% are indeed for peaceful purpose.

I think the world  was more concerned with their investments in space, than the military implications

Yet in all, I as an american, see no threat by China to our national security since most of our military satelites are in higher orbits and have ample self defense from such attacks in times of war.

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Post time 2007-3-22 18:42:25 |Display all floors

Tanegashima Space Centre - Spy vs Spy

Originally posted by convair1948 at 2007-3-12 22:19
Although I cannot blame China for testing a defensive policy (satelite killer) to counter US dominance of space, the real concern besides giving the US military a heart attack     Is the real con ...

Actually, China has good reasons to field a defensive shield, after all, former President Reagan escalated the space arms race with his SDI "Star War" program.

However, I think China did that because China is concerned about the increasing Japanese military presence in space. Japan has recently put its fourth spy satellite into orbit. The original program is to eventually have eight spy satellites in orbit.

Even now, countries like Australia are busily buying aerial warfare destroyers which have the capability to shoot down rockets with the intention to do what? Place them in the Formosa Strait or between Japan and North Korea?

I believe the current Japanese spy satellites have a resolution of 1 meter, that is to say, they can spot, identify and follow any objects with a diameter of 1 meter eg. cars, boats etc. In comparison, the current generation of American spy satellites can identify objects half that size and less.

The ostensible reason for this new Japanese spy-satellite program is to keep an eye on North Korean round the clock. To be fair to the Japanese, North Korea is unpredictable and aggressive, and has kidnapped Japanese citizens. I would be nervous living next to them.

But eight spy-satellites is an overkill, and of course, there is nothing to stop the Japanese from using them on China.


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Post time 2007-3-23 10:48:31 |Display all floors


but, I think the main purpose is to protect our Taiwan.

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