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Post time 2006-12-14 10:32:32 |Display all floors
Johnyou, you can say that, but many Chinese (like our beloved chairman et al) have not stopped blaming Japan. There is an automatic dislike of Japanese that is widely spread across China because of the atrocities that few of them, nowadays, were responsible for. Would you agree?

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Post time 2006-12-14 10:45:11 |Display all floors
I understand how Chairman feels about Japan.

You know those Japnese that regard themselves representatives of Japan do

commit the stupid doings, trying to change the history as to hide the historical

truth. What they are doing about the textbooks not only anger Chinese people

but the people in the whole Asia as well. Their saying they represent Japan

sends a message that Japan is try to hide the truth...!  I think now you

understand what their blame means...!

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Post time 2006-12-14 10:49:17 |Display all floors

lacking perspective, fairness and compassion

Originally posted by johnyou at 12-14-2006 09:26



What do you think are atrocities? Anyone that has the common sense will say it’s a crime. And it’s the common knowledge that crime is in no way forgivable and will be punished by ...



what's wrong with the foreigners is that they lack perspective on the issue.  We see the Nazi crimes compared to the Japnese crimes, and maybe they were similar, but what's not simialr is what's happened afterwards.  Just less than 3 months ago Israel (the country that was illegally created out of sympathy by of course western powers) was given a free nuclear capable submarine by the germans.  there are no similarities between how the germans treated jews post WWII and how the japanese treat/treated the Chinese post WWII.


there's not any fairness toward the Chinese either.  when there's a shrine visit, people tell the chinese to quit acting like babies, shut up, and tell 'em the past is the past, grow up!  but in germany it's against the law to publicly state the holocaust never happened, and when an Iranian leader says this to the world every westerner is sure as shyte to be outraged and quick to call him a monster.  


they can't seem to muster up any compassion for the chinese, but then again it was not them that had their country mutilated, raped, and murdered en masse or individually.  


while the japense of today did not commit the crimes, it's incomprehensible how foreigners expect the chinese to just sweep this under the rug as if it never happened.   

In the USA we're still rolling footage of the Japense bombing of Pearl Harbor and thumping how we conquered them, but the Chinese aren't allowed to remember their brutal past.  Clint Eastwood just made a movie about the US invasion of Japan and it's on the top 10 slot for top movies and people think it's patriotic to watch such films, etc, , but if the Chinese make a film of the brutal Japanese we'd call it propaganda or brainwashing by the communists, yada yada.  

There's just no fairness toward the Chinese, even on a  Chinese forum.

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Post time 2006-12-14 10:52:50 |Display all floors
Originally posted by johnyou at 12-14-2006 10:45
I understand how Chairman feels about Japan.

I understand how Chairman feels about Japan.

You know those Japnese that regard themselves representatives of Japan do

commit the stupid doings, trying to change the history as to hide the historical

truth. What they are doing about the textbooks not only anger Chinese people

but the people in the whole Asia as well. Their saying they represent Japan

sends a message that Japan is try to hide the truth...!  I think now you

understand what their blame means...!



you know what's interesting about this is that there are occasional large scale protests in south korea, but they don't get any negative attention at all.  only china gets spit on for protesting though.

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Post time 2006-12-14 10:56:37 |Display all floors
Not all of them do, john. The average Japanese person on the street is not plotting to alter the textbooks. Maybe you should feel sorry for them, since their government is doing this and causing this sore spot with neighboring countries. Sometimes it's much more appropriate to blame a country's government than its people... they may not know any better. Maybe China is also this way--Japan has apologized before, but the Chinese government would rather keep its people feeling negative toward Japan. Did you consider that possibility?

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Post time 2006-12-14 11:06:09 |Display all floors
Originally posted by cestmoi at 2006-12-14 10:10
To this date, Australia does not forget the Kokoda Trail.

Or the Timorese who helped in WW2. That's why, despite diplomatic "pragmatism" of successive Australian governments, the Australian people were firmly in support of the people of East Timor.
"他不是救星, 他是一个非常淘气男孩" - Monty Python

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Post time 2006-12-14 11:09:59 |Display all floors

Sockmonkey ,

What mikeghet say about the 'issue' is of more objectivity comparing with those inputs you posted on it. Reading it over may help you understand chairman and the like of him...! To tell you the truth, Japan would not have been blamed if it could have done even 30% of what Germen did in dealing with the war crimes it committed!!! Japnese government has no idea what it's doing sometimes...! what a shame!!

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