Author: pandamonium

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Post time 2006-11-24 12:16:09 |Display all floors

Brazil

No, it's more like the movie "Brazil", ever seen that? It's a classic.

It's like I work in the Ministry of Information and my desk is getting smaller.

I didn't get a stapler and even worse I'm in room 101


This is not a fake post, they are really doing this to me and all the gweilos (or whatever Whampoa calls us) back in my original gweilo country are taking note and laughing at me because I said "No, really it will be ok to work in China". It makes China look bad and me look stupid, so I hope they pay soon and quieten the critics.
"We know it's weakness, but the weakness is so strong!"

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Post time 2006-11-24 12:44:19 |Display all floors
Originally posted by travis at 2006-11-24 09:00


I suggest you out them!  Tell everyone who they are, then lets see who this company with a good reputation are!


Note to Panda:

This isn't a bad idea.

It is one way to apply some pressure - but you will then of course need to look for another job.

But I am just a tad confused. I am a foreigner, I have lived and worked in China for over 18 years and I have never not been paid.

Perhaps it is just me, but there would only have been two pay terms where I didn't get paid, the first one when I would possibly accept an excuse and the second one when I would not and which would mark the moment of my leaving.

Why have you waited 6 months? Are there perks that keep you hanging on?

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Post time 2006-11-24 13:10:33 |Display all floors

I'm hanging

because I am very specialised, so we need each other.

They will pay me but when?

If they pay me too late, I think I may end up paying more tax than I should have - but I am not sure of the Chinese system.

No Chinese person I ask seems to know anything about their own system - maybe they have never been paid either.

Perhaps we are all just waiting to be paid.

Still, I don't have the record; there is the guy here who's been waiting 9 months.
"We know it's weakness, but the weakness is so strong!"

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Post time 2006-11-24 15:52:13 |Display all floors

Sorry to hear that

The organization you work for is a chinese one or a foreign one? It is even worse than the private company in Wenzhou who always postpone the  actual date of  payoff.

Btw,  do the organization pay the salaries to other co-workers?

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Post time 2006-11-24 20:21:38 |Display all floors
Originally posted by amyamy at 2006-11-23 18:01
About 120 million migrant rural workers make their living in China's booming cities and many of them work in high-risk, labor-intensive industries.

Defaults on payments to migrant workers mainly occur in the construction industry. This problem has affected the income of the rural population for a long time and is considered a "chronic illness" affecting and undermining social stability.

There are no official figures on the total amount of unpaid wages owed to migrant workers. But statistics released by the CPC Central Commission for Discipline Inspection show that, at the end of June 2006, construction companies were owed a total of 117 billion yuan  


Oh the unpaid wages 117,000,000,000 yuan owed by construction companies, not include other business sectors.
There are about 120,000,000  migrant rural workers. Assuming one fifth of them work for construction companies, there'll be 24,000,000 workers.

117,000,000,000 divided by 24,000,000 workers will be 4875 yuan per worker average. Then it may be exceeding 3 months unpaid. But if the workers unpaid are fewer then 24,000,000, it would even exceed 3 months unpaid.

How would a society be harmonious ? About two years ago there was news about construction workers jumping from the building in Beijing to draw people's attention on this issue. I don't think the authority has done enough to solve this matter.

Some worked without pay , some dog owners sent their pet dogs to dye hair...what a big gap.
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Post time 2006-11-26 03:21:21 |Display all floors

Timely Payment of Wages

Anything over 2 weeks is too long. Do you have receipts of your hours worked? In the Anglo system of common law, you can bring suit against a party for not fulfilling a contract. Technically it is called nonperformance. In the state of Georgia if you are very poor, you can go before a judge and swear to a written affidavit (a statement written under penalty of perjury-lying)that swears to your poverty. In this way you can file a complaint without paying court costs. It should be very easy for you to represent yourself in a civil court. Be sure you have your receipts for the hours you worked. This evidence of you fulfilling your part of the agreement. If the you win, you get something called a judgment. You then have to collect the judgment from the adverse party(the people you sued). If payment is not forth coming then you go to  the court to get a fifa which is a lien against the adverse party's property. They cannot sell the property without paying your lien,  otherwise not to do so puts them in contempt of court. Contempt of court will put them in jail. The court then can sieze the property and thereby sell it on the court house steps. If I am wrong about the process,  and if you are a lawyer of Anglo common law, please correct me.

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Post time 2006-11-26 06:14:36 |Display all floors
Originally posted by pandamonium at 2006-11-21 13:31
Hi,

My employer has never paid my salary. Now it is almost 6 months late. I have told them I am running out of RMB cash, but one department just blames another. Also, they owe me more money for  ...



If I were you, I would stop working for them until they pay up!

Why can't you expose the organization for such an unlawful practice?

Please don't continue to encourage this kind of nonsense behaviors by working for them.

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