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well... i donno about situations in British/New Zealand/Australia etc. but here in the US, most chinese students' english is really bad, especially those newcomers, 20-30 year old, who graduate from colleges and come to the US to be MA or PHD.
Not listening or speaking per se, but overall, it is bad.
They prefer to talk to taiwanese, who seem to speak better English and are more open-minded in terms of absorbing new stuff. It is sad for me to hear that, but i know they are telling the truth. isn't sad?
Originally posted by littoral at 2006-6-23 07:03
i m she-littoral
i have been so busy with my MA thesis that i never get time to goof around ...
haha..i m amazed at how sensitive you can be when hearing some people are better than us... tha ...
The discussion is a bit off the line now, but it is more interesting.
I have some similar observations here in Singapore as you have in the US. The Taiwanese and Hong Kong ppl generally are easier to blend with the locals. But I don't think that it is a problem of language only.
In my experience, compared with that of the Taiwanese and Hong Kong ppl, the Mainlanders' English is not bad, at least they start from the same level.
The problem is in their attitudes to the world and to different cultures.
Most ppl from Mainland grow up in an environment with limited channels to information. To make things worse, most info they can have has been filtered without their notice.
They just lack of exposure to differences. Hence, they are not so tolerant or accommodating to differences. This really impede them communicating with others or the locals in other countries.
Not many ppl notice this. But once they realize this problem and go beyond their egos/prides, they will start appreciating the differences and learn from others.
Only by then, a better English can be turned into an edge in communication. Otherwise, it is just some dry scores on the paper.
I believe you will do pretty well in the US, littoral.