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Post time 2006-8-10 07:21:18 |Display all floors
Originally posted by whampoa at 2006-8-10 05:18

It is an OFFENSIVE word and

Americans are simply OFFENSIVE people.


I am more and more convinced you have never 下脚 in China. The plethora of 粗语 here is like a flood 蔓延泛滥 the whole country. You would 受不了 after hearing 老人家 calling their own grand sons "little pussy" a while. Even worse when variations on the theme 早晚 are spoken by staff in the 超市. It is 我靠 here, and it is 我操 there, and 碍口 things still in other places.
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Post time 2006-8-10 08:28:55 |Display all floors
Originally posted by liangzai at 2006-8-10 07:21


I am more and more convinced you have never 下脚 in China. The plethora of 粗语 here is like a flood 蔓延泛滥 the whole country. You would 受不了 after hearing 老人家 calling their own grand so ...


I'm not sure what you said there liangzai, but I think I like it.


Anyway, as for the word "f---" being used everywhere, yes it can fit in MANY situations, but with certain people/groups/ages. My father would never say it, he barely curses at all. I would never say it in front of my parents or other elders, I would NEVER EVER say it around children that aren't mine, or even in public in a store or whatever. For me, once in a while it "slips out", like if I bump myself and it hurts really badly, or I drop something & it spills or breaks.... I've said it in front of my son a few times now that he's a teenager - not on purpose, but it's not like he's so little anymore that he's going to mindlessly copy me. He knows what words to say or not say by now.
And he doesn't curse, or like it when other people do a lot... maybe because I didn't around him.

Basically, although this doesn't make sense, my best advice is this:
If someone says it to you or near you, don't take it personally, just let it go.
At the same time, don't bother using it, there's really no need. No one will think less of you for not using it. (unless your friends are some bizarre little teenagers who think it's cool)

***WHY DOES the F-word get turned into dashes for me but not all of you?***

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Post time 2006-8-10 23:04:28 |Display all floors

Reply #20 redwine18's post

Redwine,

UGLY singaporean, huh?

But you know, my screen is 21” and you can imagine what your words are translated into.

Btw, lau guan kim is on pace-maker which means …

Of course, it’s YOUR choice how you want to use the “stationery” available on CD Forum like some who love to post obscenities.  And that was GOOD what you posted.  

As for the Japs’ names, we can talk about them later or in another appropriate thread.

I do not want to disrupt this thread with leejee’s genuine interest for discussion.


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When asked what they least admired about the West, they replied
MORAL DECAY, PROMISCUITY and pornography which...
DEGRADED women.

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Post time 2006-8-10 23:20:59 |Display all floors
Agree with you, freakyqi... I'm not much for swearing, but sometimes it slips out. It also depends on who I'm around--one of my friends in my program while I was in Beijing swore a lot, and as a result, I started swearing more, too. Also, you don't have to take it personally if someone swears near you... if someone swears at you while angry, then that's understandable, but if you just overhear someone say "Oh f*ck, I forgot to go to the bank" or whatever, there's no reason to get upset.

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Post time 2006-8-10 23:22:49 |Display all floors

Reply #22 liangzai's post

Originally posted by liangzai at 2006-8-10 07:21


I am more and more convinced you have never 下脚 in China. The plethora of 粗语 here is like a flood 蔓延泛滥 the whole country. You would 受不了 after hearing 老人家 calling their own grand so ...


You are correct that I am not familiar with those characters/terms which you call profanities.

I believe there are 粗语 (profanities) in every country, people and race which I class (and justify) them as part of the culture of sexuality.

But you missed the point.

Those so called Chinese 粗语 you mentioned are not “popular” among the Chinese.  I am a Chinese (100%) and, like you are convinced, I have never heard of them or understood their meaning.  

I know Chinese have 粗语 and if they include the above, then I admit that my knowledge of them is limited.

The American F-word is different.  Everybody knows it, says it and thinks nothing about using and saying it, even in front of their children and it has even gone on the big screen.

F-word is being propagated and turned into a pop-language by the Americans and in American movies.

The point I made earlier, the Americans populate their vulgarities as they would populate their culture of vice, which has been more extensively mentioned in my post #14.

So, you see they are different!  You follow?


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[ Last edited by whampoa at 2006-8-10 11:25 PM ]
When asked what they least admired about the West, they replied
MORAL DECAY, PROMISCUITY and pornography which...
DEGRADED women.

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Post time 2006-8-10 23:32:31 |Display all floors

Reply #23 freakyqi's post

***WHY DOES the F-word get turned into dashes for me but not all of you?***


You are banned to use.

But I do thank you for your generous contributions to share the insight of your tiny world.

Personally, I don’t say that word or use vulgarities in my everyday life and not especially in front of children.

Or more fairly stated, I don't “consciously” use or say it.

So you can imagine the “shock” when I first heard those Chinese youths learning English (in English Square) what they were taught was a good word to learn?  Perhaps, that’s my motivation for staying on so long.

I guess when I was a kid I did use them with my rowdy friends but I will never forget how I was once harshly reprimanded by my father when he “caught” me.

In essence, using vulgarities reflects upon the person, his/her upbringing and the people/friends they associate with.  

I confessed I wasn’t perfect and I failed.


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[ Last edited by whampoa at 2006-8-10 11:46 PM ]
When asked what they least admired about the West, they replied
MORAL DECAY, PROMISCUITY and pornography which...
DEGRADED women.

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Post time 2006-8-10 23:42:27 |Display all floors
To answer lee jee’s curiosity

The F-word is an offensive word, a taboo and a vulgarity.  FOR SURE.

Some may use it as a curse, a vent and whatever, but using it definitely reflects and places the person in a very negative light, considered barbaric, uncultured and uneducated.


So, know this but DON'T use it.


If someone says it to you or near you, don't take it personally, just let it go.


Ummm… if everyone thinks this way, we will surely have peace but ….

I still like the times of my father where rude and uncivil behaviour would not be tolerated and children who spoke them were chided and shamed.  Then, people have the true freedom to speak their mind, teach their children the right thing and where wrongs were feared and shamed.


Sadly, we’ve lost this part of the essence of life.  Thanks to "liberation".



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[ Last edited by whampoa at 2006-8-10 11:51 PM ]
When asked what they least admired about the West, they replied
MORAL DECAY, PROMISCUITY and pornography which...
DEGRADED women.

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